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Hydeus 01-07-2004 06:29 AM

Back to the topic: we're still not so far in ffmpeg mod for windows?
Is there a way to implment notch matrix, and to use avs scripts (or other similar scripts)? If it so great advantage above TMPG why it's dumped? :?

russiansexpat 01-08-2004 07:47 AM

I don't understand all these itching around ffmpeg.
Sure, it is the fastest encoder so far, but now it is fully incorporated into mencoder as libavcodec and I don't use ffmpeg for video or audio any longer.
I use toolame for audio encoding and mencoder libavcodec (it is a full port of ffmpeg).
If you use mencoder, you don't have to encode video and audio separately, mencoder is doing mux now.
I split the resulting .mpg file only for two reasons:
a) to be able to image it into multiple CDs; and you can do that without even a multiplxer, just use http://mpgtx.sourceforge.net/
b) I use _variable_ audio bitrate, and right now it can be done only with toolame.
With my celeron 933mHz mpeg1 produced in 1x real time scale, so what the point go faster?
Take a look or better try it:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7771&start=35

P.S. mplayer/mencoder likely already ported to windows,
but I personally even don't play 1st person shooters in windoze, because they are twice slower there.

Dialhot 01-08-2004 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russiansexpat
If you use mencoder, you don't have to encode video and audio separately, mencoder is doing mux now.

The question of Hydeus are still the same. And I join myself to him to ask you :

- can we put the Notch matrix in mencoder ?
- can we use scripts* ?

Without these two things what you are doing is fast, but not really a KVCD.

edit : *I do not mean unix shell scripts there but of course avs scripts, to be used as source in mencoder (does it accept pipes ?)

Hydeus 01-08-2004 08:32 AM

@russian
And where is possible to download mencoder for windows?
And how use this script of yours? (maybe small how-to) :lol:

Of course we like to use our avs scripts, so ...

kwag 01-08-2004 10:26 AM

mencoder(mplayer) is not available for Windoze.

-kwag

russiansexpat 01-08-2004 10:37 AM

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/projects.html
see section windows.
Yes, mencoder works with pipes (fifos) and urls, I can encode straight from http link or device.
any intra and non-intra matrix can be put as a command line parameter.

Jellygoose 01-08-2004 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
- can we put the Notch matrix in mencoder ?
- can we use scripts* ?

One more: Can the GOP structure be modified? :roll:

Dialhot 01-08-2004 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellygoose
One more: Can the GOP structure be modified? :roll:

I did not mentioned that because fmpeg has parameters for that, so mencoder surely has :-)

Hydeus 01-08-2004 11:07 AM

Mencoder 4 win could be find on
http://armory.nicewarrior.org/projects/cygmp/
So, we're going to test it? ;)

Dialhot 01-08-2004 11:10 AM

Cool :-)

Hydeus 01-08-2004 11:28 AM

.. yet use of it is another story :)
And do mencoder needs this libavcodec library (i assume it's dll), or it is implemented? If needs, lets go serch for it :driveby:

kwag 01-08-2004 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russiansexpat
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/projects.html
see section windows.

:oops: :imstupid: :douh:
Last time I checked, there was a message clearly stating that the software wasn't available for Windows. :P
Thanks for the update 8) :D

-kwag

Hydeus 01-08-2004 11:36 AM

realy?
..o wait, and what is this
http://armory.nicewarrior.org/projec...r-20031126.exe

I've foud this in section Windows on site pointed by "russian". Second link.


PS: I dont know if it's ok to put a direct link to the file. If not, direct me, and I'll clean this.

Dialhot 01-08-2004 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Last time I checked, there was a message clearly stating that the software wasn't available for Windows.

And I just checked the documentation :

7.2. Encoding to MPEG format

[...]this feature is not very useful right now, aside that it probably has many bugs[...]

:-D

BTW, we will see that quicly.

russiansexpat 01-08-2004 12:29 PM

Quote:

7.2. Encoding to MPEG format

[...]this feature is not very useful right now, aside that it probably has many bugs[...]
but documentation is not updated yet.
This was long outstanding situation, that's why I used ffmpeg for audio and mencoder for video. Last November they finally added audio encoding and audio filters, so I can do this and even resampling frequency into 48kHz (still they don't have my favorite audio vbr :| so I use toolame).
Also, I've tested deinterlacing on ugly .wmv streams and it's ok.

My respects to http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7962
He actually done most of original work, I just experimented with many options in mencoder.

Hydeus 01-08-2004 04:24 PM

@russian
Ok. I have 3 scripts for KVCD, SVCD and KSVCD from the site you recommendet. But how to use it in windows version of mencoder?

russiansexpat 01-09-2004 06:42 AM

Don't despair. There is a solution:
http://home.earthlink.net/~penguinrox/

Hydeus 01-09-2004 06:55 AM

:cid: very funny I mustsay :imstupid:
I thought that this is KVCD forum, and not ALL YOU WINDOWS USER SWITCH OVER TO LINUX forum :cluebat:
I've used linux for about half a year, but geting error mesago of any aplication 3 times a day (because it support wersion x.xxx1 and will never support version x.xxx2) is very flustrating.
I will use windows until this "linux zoo" will exist :stickeye:
So unless you don't have ansver for me .. dont bother

vmesquita 01-09-2004 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak47
But when I actually tried Linux and saw its potential (mpeg-1 video with an average bit rate of ~500kbs that almost looks like the original DVD on my TV.

Ok this looks like a miracle... :D I had linux in my machine a while ago but right now my Windows XP is living alone. :)
What are you using in linux to achive that? Please share with us... :D If I can achive that I might get Linux a big fat space in my HD again... :D

Dialhot 01-09-2004 12:30 PM

"Mpeg-1 video with an average bit rate of ~500kbs that almost looks like the original DVD on my TV" means only one thing : that's a really small TV ! (or a really crappy DVD player)

:-)


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