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01-26-2004, 06:52 PM
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Why is "CCE" taking forever to encode now,
(for the last coupla days I bin mesin with it & it would finish 1 2hour 704x480 MOVIE in like 4 hours & now It wants ta take 16? wtf ?
Could it be the script, But Its A really simple script
I'm Running a AMD Athlon XP 2200 WITH 500 RAM

This is the script (cant be it)

Mpeg2Source("E:\delete\1.d2v")

TomsMoComp(1, 15, 1)
undot()
asharp(1, 4)
GripCrop(704, 480, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
FluxSmooth()
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")

VobSub("D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_10_0")
GripBorders()
LetterBox(16, 16, 16, 16)

function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}
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01-26-2004, 07:40 PM
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It don't seem to be the only reason but fluxsmooth is somehow quite slow sometimes.
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01-27-2004, 04:02 AM
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Yep and let me add something: There are better more effectively filters by better maintaining the Details than fluxsmooth, in relation to encoding speed. But thats i think not the respansable for your worse speed in CEE.

To me it seems you got some codec conflicts as CCE always internally wants a YUY2 Stream. So do give CCE a hand and add at the end of your script

ConverttoYUY2()

this will provide to CCE a colorspace, CCE directly can work with.
(read my reply in your other Thread about internal colorspaces of the diff. encoders.
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01-27-2004, 04:28 AM
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Yep and let me add something: There are better more effectively filters by better maintaining the Details than fluxsmooth
You're right. Infact Fluxsmooth shouldn't be used apart from the script I gavein an other thead of untouchable

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ConverttoYUY2()

this will provide to CCE a colorspace, CCE directly can work with.
That strange because I never do that and I have a 0.75x encoding speed (on a AMD1700+). I also thought that this line was mandatory.
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@ Phil

Yep, I do not need that line neither, but in the case of some users they do report, that they need it
BTW: Is your 1700+ a DLT3C JIUHB??? Cause that one you can rise up to real 2200-2300mhz.

@ Untouchable

As Dialhot said, you do modify a MA script in the wrong way, maybe you even will obtain more compression but you do a double temporal and spatial filtering on your source and by this your encoding will come out ... well anyhow not that good.

1. TomsMocomb ??? Why whats that kind of DVD?? a "real" ntsc movie shot on video? or just a telecined stream?

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FluxSmooth # Does spatial and temporal filtering
StMedianFilter # Does in this case spatial and minimal temporal filtering
TemporalSoften # another temporal filtering

You see?? 3 times temporal filtering on your source, ... wow!
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01-27-2004, 05:01 AM
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BTW: Is your 1700+ a DLT3C JIUHB???
I will answer as soon as you have explain to me what this means

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Cause that one you can rise up to real 2200-2300mhz.
No, it is a 1700+, that means a 1485MHz AMD Athlon that have the calc power of a 1700 GHz Intel P4.
I just changed it last we for a 1800Mhz that is called 2200+ by AMD. But I do not have the time (nor any DVD to do) to try it yet

@ Untouchable

As Dialhot said, you do modify a MA script in the wrong way, maybe you even will obtain more compression but you do a double temporal and spatial filtering on your source and by this your encoding will come out ... well anyhow not that good.
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01-27-2004, 05:43 AM
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BTW: Is your 1700+ a DLT3C JIUHB???
I will answer as soon as you have explain to me what this means

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Cause that one you can rise up to real 2200-2300mhz.
No, it is a 1700+, that means a 1485MHz AMD Athlon that have the calc power of a 1700 GHz Intel P4.

Well remove the headsink and watch the Product code of your xp 1700+ CPU and maybe it says:

AXDA 1700 DLT3C
JIUHB XXXX xxxxxxxxxx

The big "X"'s stand for a product range of that JIUHB, maybe instead of the XXXX there will be a MPMW or XPMW or RPMW or VPMW ... all of them give even a "plus" of OC capabilities.

But the main importand code is DLT3C and the JIUHB.

DLT3C means that this CPU runs basically on 1,5v Vcore = less temperature
DUT3C means for example it runs basically on 1,65 Vcore on the same orig Mhz = more temperature. And so the DLT3C gives more "space" to rise the Vcore to get very high megaherz running without that much Vcore Voltage. DLT3C = Very less Temperature on high MHZ real settings.

JIUHB means that the CPU deals with a very good stepping, phantastic for Overclocking.

So if your ram permits it, rise the FSB from 133 to 166 mhz! (use round known fsb Mhz in case of VIA chip based boards if not, the PCI bus speed also will rise up/down!)
Then do change the CPU MHZ multiplicator that much until you get 2200mhz CPU Mhz. You should by this rise the Vcore to 1,65v before.

By doing this your Heatsink should be able to handle 3400+ Temperatures!

And now you got a 2200Mhz CPU running with 166 FSB and you can assume what that means in the AMD scala and at the AMD usual 1,65v Vcore!!!.

I got one of these JIUHBs DLT3Cs (a 1800xp) and its running at 2530mhz and as I got a Nforce2 chipset and TwinMos 3200 Rams I did set the FSB to 220Mhz
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01-27-2004, 06:21 AM
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Then do change the CPU MHZ multiplicator that much until you get 2200mhz CPU Mhz. You should by this rise the Vcore to 1,65v before.
Okay, so we are talking about overclocking here.
This CPU (as the whole PC) is not mine, so I won't "play" with it. I'm happy enought to have a second unit to help my "little" 1.4Ghz P4. 3 hours to make a movie insteed of 5, that's enought for me

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I got one of these JIUHBs DLT3Cs (a 1800xp) and its running at 2530mhz and as I got a Nforce2 chipset and TwinMos 3200 Rams I did set the FSB to 220Mhz
Perhaps it is a traumatic sequel after having see a 200.000€ board taking fire when I worked for the telecom company Alcatel but I will (and you would) never overclock any component in my PC.
The problem isn't in the CPU but in the other components.
It's like my good old 110HP TDI Golf. I can push it to 150HP with no problem, but do you think the brakes and the tyres can handle that ? I'd rather not having to ask myself this kind of question when I enter a U-turn at 100 km/h
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01-27-2004, 06:35 AM
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I also had got that TDI GOLF! Now im "running" using a SMART CDI 3,8Liters Diesel he needs on 100km.

Well you're right that everything should work in "harmony" but in my case I'm running my system in that state about 3/4 Year and everything works fine, Temps of CPU (socket) = 41c @ Load and Case 30c I think thats ok, ok I spend my CPU a watercooling-set. Also the Mosfets etc. are Air-Cooled so I got no temperature problems.
But OC to 2200mhz (as explained above) won't need that.

http://www.nethands.de/pys/show.php4?user=EpoxRitter
(My name there is EpoxRitter)

But you're right, if Overclocking .... someone should be in it and should know what he's doing. And I also would never touch foreign or company devices too
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ye I got a 2200+ Athlon that outruns a p4 @ 1808 mhz
AMD's jus as good as pentium but HALF the $$ Price !!

I'm havin another prob tho guys ,
I wanted a mpv filesize of 1300 mb (From CCE) & SAMPLE SIZE CALCULATED TO 13,
bUT TARGET FILES SEEMS TO BE COMMIN AT 1.14 GB IT SHOULD BE BIGGER, i TRYED TWICE HMMMMM

(2) I know this question is probably gettin annoing by now but can 1 of my fellow AMD brothers (LOL) hook up a better script that will allow
(1) a Q of 60 or less & (2) Make the target movie as digital crisp as possiable,
I need a targetsize of 1300mb (mpv) & we all know vcds can hold 2 x 800mb but tryin ta put 3 dvd's ta 1 dvdr max u get is 2 x 600 mb lol
So I f 1 of u could also throw the last line of the script u were talkin about on there, I would be really greatful !! (coloryuv or whatever)
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