How to Convert ASF Video to KVCD?

Paulus · #1 02-08-2004, 05:51 PM

I have managed to safe a video stream of a tv show (National Songfestival

) to my harddisk (it's in .asf format).

Is there a way to transcode this to KVCD ?

I know, quality is poor but I would like to see it on the TV screen. Hopefully it's still watchable. (for an .asf it's not so bad quality by the way...)

Encoder Master · #2 02-09-2004, 03:00 PM

Load just in TMPGEnc. So I do it.

Paulus · #3 02-10-2004, 01:06 AM

You don't use an .avs script....?

Guess the V4 DIVX script will work also on .asf..

Dialhot · #4 02-10-2004, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paulus

Guess the V4 DIVX script will work also on .asf..

It should if you replace "Avisource("...",false)" by "Directshowsource("...").killaudio()".

Paulus · #5 02-10-2004, 12:59 PM

Yep....

Gonna try it tonight/this evening. Hope result will be good.

Paulus · #6 02-10-2004, 05:52 PM

I am trying this script:

Code:

directshowsource("D:\Streams\bb.20040129.asf").killaudio() 
Addborders(0,8,0,0)
BlindPP(cpu=4) 
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max=3,variance=0.1,seed=1) 
Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0) 
GripCrop(480,576,overscan=1, source_anamorphic=false,dest_anamorphic=false) 
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize") 
Undot() 
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2) 
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0) 
GripBorders()

The source .asf file is 352x264 so I added "AddBorders(0,8,0,0)" I hope that's right (352/16=22 - OK, 264/16=16,5 -> closest value devisable by 16 is 272 = Add 8 ).

Problem is that both TMPGenc and Vdub crash when loading this .avs (?).

Further I cannot use Vdub to separate audio from video on the .asf file (Vdub gives an (error)message about Microsoft patents and that it's unable / not allowed to accept .asf files

).

Maybe don't use "kill audio" on the .avs script (if I can get it to work) and use "system (video+audio) in TMPGenc ?

bigggt · #7 02-10-2004, 06:38 PM

Hi Paulus

Search for virtualdub 1.3 or 1.4 (can't remember) but one of them allows .asf files

Dialhot · #8 02-10-2004, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulus

Maybe don't use "kill audio" on the .avs script (if I can get it to work) and use "system (video+audio) in TMPGenc ?

Yeah, may be. Test it and tell us.

Paulus · #9 02-11-2004, 06:52 AM

@bigggt
Thanks, I'll look for those versions......

@Dialhot
Removed the .killaudio lines and opend the .avs file in TMPG with "System (video + audio)" setting, but........ TMPG still crashed (not responding for minutes after trying to load the file) ?

I suspect this is a codec issue (

). I have NIMO / ACE / LIGOS etc. etc. Should I change / check some codecs (does .asf require a special codec/filter ?)........

I'm using the TMPG 2.513 Plus by the way............

Dialhot · #10 02-11-2004, 06:55 AM

ASF is a property of M$, delievered as free at first but becoming not-free one day : That is why Vdub removed it from its features.

Still then, almost no tool was delivered with an asf support.
You can use "Movie Maker" from M$ or look for "asf2avi" on the web. But the results are poor.

Paulus · #11 02-11-2004, 11:51 AM

I've downloaded ASF-tools (http://www.asftools.de/) which can convert .asf to .avi, so I read......Let's see how that works.....

Also I'm downloading VirtualDub 1.3C which should be able to handle .asf....

What would be the best way to transcode to kvcd with as little compression loss as possible ?

I also need to cut a clip of ca. 5 minutes from the source (which is 471 MB for 67 minutes).

Dialhot · #12 02-11-2004, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulus

What would be the best way to transcode to kvcd with as little compression loss as possible ?

using a lossless avi codec as huffyuv but it need 8Go by hour of video in VCD resolution.

Quote:

I also need to cut a clip of ca. 5 minutes from the source (which is 471 MB for 67 minutes).

With vdub all this will be possible.

Paulus · #13 02-11-2004, 01:38 PM

pfffff.....it's one of those hopeless "projects" it seems......

I've tried Vdub 1.3C which should be able to handle .asf. ...BUT .....when trying to open my .asf file a error message - yet again - turns up..: "couldn't locate decompressor for format wmv2"(unknown).

Searching the net I found this: http://www.google.nl/search?q=cache:...art=2&ie=UTF-8

This also lead me to an interesting program called "GraphEdit" where you can configure which codecs to use for various media files. It works with a GUI like a flowchart program.....Looks promissing but I didn't figure out how to use it.....

pffff........any advise...=

Dialhot · #14 02-11-2004, 06:00 PM

Graphedit is one of the very rare programm I passed throught because I don't really understand it

. Good luck

rendalunit · #15 02-11-2004, 11:14 PM

I've extracted the audio from .asf files with Goldwave before but it's very slow. Also i think you need to specify the frames per second in the script for .asf files.

bigggt · #16 02-12-2004, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit

Also i think you need to specify the frames per second in the script for .asf files.

Exactly

when i used wmv files i used this

Code:

DirectShowSource("video.asf", fps=15).

of course you put your own frame rate in and then load into tmpge and use system(audio+Video) and everything worked great

Paulus · #17 02-13-2004, 01:44 AM

Hmm.....In fact I've already converted my .asf files to .wmv files with Windows Media Encoder 7 because nothing (Vdub 1.3 / Tmpg) can read my .asf files.

Maybe just use the "fps" part in the source setting of my script and it works ??.....

PS: Why you use Fps = 15 ?

Dialhot · #18 02-13-2004, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulus

PS: Why you use Fps = 15 ?

Because he had a 15 fps source

Paulus · #19 02-13-2004, 09:07 AM

...makes sense

....

How to proceed with .wmv files (-> Virtual Dub ?)

Hydeus · #20 02-13-2004, 10:55 AM

You can split wmv and asf under graphedit, and redurect sterams to AVI video and WMA audio. This way produced AVI (probably MSMPEG4V2/3) should be redable by any video editer.