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rs008f 02-21-2004 06:03 PM

Is there an alternative to Hardcode's PULLDOWN.EXE?
 
I recently converted a Divx 23.976 fps video to KDVD. I used pulldown.exe to do a pulldown to 29.97 fps. I observed that it causes jerkiness ONLY during panning (camera moves slowly from one direction to another). I think pulldown.exe is causing this and I want to know if there is an alternative program. I use the simple command line
pulldown.exe XXX.mpv XXX.m2v
Maybe I should be using more parameters, if so what are they?

vmesquita 02-21-2004 06:07 PM

There isn't and if you understand pulldown correctly, you'll see that it doesn't make sense to exist. Pulldown doesn't actually change the frame rate, it only enables a flag in the stream telling the DVD player to convert 23.976 to 29.97 throught a process known as telecining. So the jerkiness must be in your 23.976 encoded movie already...

rs008f 02-21-2004 06:25 PM

Does CCE have a reputation of creating jerky videos? I'm using CCE to convert Divx to KDVD.

Dialhot 02-21-2004 06:33 PM

Be carreful !
pulldown set the flag, that's true. But this flag is to say to the _player_ to do the pulldown.

The pulldown operation is a work on the order (and number) of the frames the player is reading. Thus, the jerkiness can be due to a bad work done by the player.

In other words, it does not exist in the video itself.

vmesquita 02-21-2004 06:38 PM

Nice explanation, DialHot. About CCE: I do this kind of conversion all the time using CCE and never had problems of jerkiness.

rs008f 02-21-2004 06:44 PM

I used DoPulldown by Woolsoft and it always says "finished with errors" with a red X. What does this mean?

Dialhot 02-21-2004 08:27 PM

Isn't there a manual ? Read it.

rs008f 02-21-2004 08:47 PM

no there's no manual. How about DVDLAB? Is it a good program? Could it be the one causing the problem? What other DVD authoring software do you recommend?

Dialhot 02-22-2004 03:12 AM

Authoring soft never do anythign on the video content,so it's not the one to blame.

Your problem is either in the player, or this strange error you have and I never had. Use pulldown.exe directly from command line, to be sure.

J-Wo 02-23-2004 01:06 AM

I've always noticed this jerkiness on my Panasonic S25 when playing my KDVDs encoded with CCE. I routinely let DVDlab do the pulldown but have tried pulldown.exe, but with the same result for both. I do notice the same jerkiness when I play the discs on my Sony 315S, and they do not exist in the source.

rs008f 02-23-2004 01:37 AM

Thank God I'm not alone. Is it jerky on a PC?


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