Mencoder: MPV only Readable by Mplayer

[Koekies]

Today I tried encoding mencoder with a different build (from mplayerHQ). It encoded the movie 2 times as fast but the result is a mpv that i can only open with mplayer :P . If I use the other mencoder build with the same bat file it does give a working mpv. Any suggestions what I could do to make the mpv work

[bigggt]

Can't you just reanme it

[rds_correia]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt

Can't you just rename it

This time renaming hardly can make a difference here.
Koekies is telling us that he tried the same *.bat file with both builds where one produced perfect video for any
player but the other one only plays inside Mplayer.
Mplayer is know to be very stable and very much compliant with almost any type of video file you feed it with.
Though that's very strange mencoder behaviour your advising us.
Koekies, what build did you download from MplayerHQ?
Maybe I can try it also and maybe you could tell us your *.bat file contents.
Cheers

[Koekies]

Renaming doesn't change the contents of the file :P powerdvd reads m2v the same as mpv. But now I used pulldown.exe and it works

[bigggt]

sorry Koekies,i am not computer samrt its just i know when i got a mpv file i couldn't play i just renamed it and it worked,obviously a different situation

[rds_correia]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt

sorry Koekies,i am not computer samrt its just i know when i got a mpv file i couldn't play i just renamed it and it worked,obviously a different situation

That's right.
When we encode the video we can as well name the extension whatever we want because afterwards we can
change that extension to one that is supported by our soft player.
Some players don't know the extension *.mpv thus they don't show files named like that as readable by the player.
But in fact Koekies problem was ahead of that.
With the exact same command line but using 2 different builds of mencoder, one was readable by his soft player
but the other one was not.
And that's why I posted
Otherwise your advise would have been pretty "workable", bigggt
Cheers

[Koekies]

One mencoder is the one you get with mencode me and the other is http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/rele...32-1.0pre4.zip I did the exact same script and bat file. The only difference was one encoded at 47fps and needed pulldown.exe to work.

bat file

Mencoder.exe -include 2temp.conf -lavcopts vbitrate=796:vpass=1 "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.vob" -o "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.m2v"
Mencoder.exe -include 2temp.conf -lavcopts vbitrate=796:vpass=2 "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.vob" -o "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.m2v"
pulldown.exe "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.m2v" "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample3.m2v" -framerate 23.976 -prog_seq p prog_frames -drop_frame true -aspect_ratio 16:9

conf file

vf=kerndeint=15:0:1yuvcsp,pullup,softskip,scale=720:480::0:9,crop=672:378:24:16,unsharp=l3x3:0.6,hqdn3d=3:6:8,unsharp=l3x3:-0.7:c3x3:-1.5,noise=3th,expand=704:480 
of=rawvideo=1 
ovc=lavc=1 
nosound=1 
sws=9 

lavcopts=vcodec=mpeg2video:vstrict=-1:vmax_b_frames=2:vrc_maxrate=2200:aspect=1.3333:keyint=18:vrc_buf_size=1835:preme=2:precmp=2:autoaspect=1:vrc_eq=tex:scplx_mask=0.01:vqmin=1:mbqmin=1:lmin=0.01: 
intra_matrix=8,9,12,22,26,27,29,34,9,10,14,26,27,29,34,37,12,14,18,27,29,34,37,38,22,26,27,31,36,37,38,40,26,27,29,36,39,38,40,48,27,29,34,37,38,40,48,58,29,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,79: 
inter_matrix=16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,22,24,26,30,32,32,34,36,24,26,28,32,34,34,36,38,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,28,30,32,34,36,38,42,42,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44 
ofps=23.976

the source was 29,976fps dvd and my result now is a 23,976 skvcd
but before i did pulldown no windows media player could read it or other programs like mplex and virtualdub mpeg version. After i used pulldown it worked great

[Koekies]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koekies

One mencoder is the one you get with mencode me and the other is http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/rele...32-1.0pre4.zip I did the exact same script and bat file. The only difference was one encoded at 47fps and needed pulldown.exe to work.

bat file

Mencoder.exe -include 2temp.conf -lavcopts vbitrate=796:vpass=1 "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.vob" -o "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.m2v"
Mencoder.exe -include 2temp.conf -lavcopts vbitrate=796:vpass=2 "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.vob" -o "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.m2v"
pulldown.exe "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample.m2v" "C:\CI3\VIDEO_TS\sample3.m2v" -framerate 23.976 -prog_seq p prog_frames -drop_frame true -aspect_ratio 16:9

conf file

vf=kerndeint=15:0:1yuvcsp,pullup,softskip,scale=720:480::0:9,crop=672:378:24:16,unsharp=l3x3:0.6,hqdn3d=3:6:8,unsharp=l3x3:-0.7:c3x3:-1.5,noise=3th,expand=704:480 
of=rawvideo=1 
ovc=lavc=1 
nosound=1 
sws=9 

lavcopts=vcodec=mpeg2video:vstrict=-1:vmax_b_frames=2:vrc_maxrate=2200:aspect=1.3333:keyint=18:vrc_buf_size=1835:preme=2:precmp=2:autoaspect=1:vrc_eq=tex:scplx_mask=0.01:vqmin=1:mbqmin=1:lmin=0.01: 
intra_matrix=8,9,12,22,26,27,29,34,9,10,14,26,27,29,34,37,12,14,18,27,29,34,37,38,22,26,27,31,36,37,38,40,26,27,29,36,39,38,40,48,27,29,34,37,38,40,48,58,29,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,34,37,38,40,48,58,69,79: 
inter_matrix=16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,22,24,26,30,32,32,34,36,24,26,28,32,34,34,36,38,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,28,30,32,34,36,38,42,42,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44 
ofps=23.976

the source was 29,976fps dvd and my result now is a 23,976 skvcd
but before i did pulldown no windows media player could read it or other programs like mplex and virtualdub mpeg version. After i used pulldown it worked great

EDIT renaming isn't necessary in the open screen show all files or double click on you mpv and m2v and select a player like power dvd


Whoops :P wrong button

[Dialhot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koekies

The only difference was one encoded at 47fps and needed pulldown.exe to work.

If you refer to the speed on the screen, this speed is a bullcrap. Sometimes it displays the double of the actual speed.

[Encoder Master]

@ Koekies


Short question: Is your Video encode in CBR mode which you will join in MEncoder?
Perhaps we have the same problems:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....156833460cd236

[Koekies]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

Quote:

If you refer to the speed on the screen, this speed is a bullcrap. Sometimes it displays the double of the actual speed.

Ah wel it only took me 2 hours and 6 minutes to encode 2 pass so its not total bullcrap

[rds_correia]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

Quote:

If you refer to the speed on the screen, this speed is a bullcrap. Sometimes it displays the double of the actual speed.

Hi Phil,
I wouldn't be so sure about the speed reported being innacurate.
At least in all my tests I've taken that into account and it is usually very near to the actual figures.
The problem is that sometimes mencoder has to drop down the speed because of the kind of scene it is encoding.
All encoders do that (tmpg and cce at least) and if you use MA then it's a completely different "deal".
The reported speed is the current encoding speed but not the actual average encoding speed.
So you could start with 45fps because the movie doesn't have any motion in the 1st minutes and you can drop to 30/35 in the more complicated parts of the movie.
At least that's what I've found untill now.
But it seems your experience is different than mine...
Maybe a P4 build of mencoder would convince you of the opposite?
Cheers

[Dialhot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia

[Hi Phil,
I wouldn't be so sure about the speed reported being innacurate.

I'm sorry to disapoint you but it's not my habit to tell something just to increase my post counter on the forum

I still have sometimes what I described there :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11342

and I can do snapshots if I need to go in front of a trial to prof my ungiltyness

BTW as explained in private to Inc, I just stop using mencoder. I let you play with this alpha released encoder

Note: I do use a P4 specific build of mencoder.

[rds_correia]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

I'm sorry to disapoint you but it's not my habit to tell something just to increase my post counter on the forum

Of course not, I was just trying to "make conversation" with you while I would raise my personal post counter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

and I can do snapshots if I need to go in front of a trial to prof my ungiltyness

Not needed my friend although, as you may agree with me, we are using mencoder in very different ways otherwise we wouldn't have so different results...
I wonder what it is

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

BTW as explained in private to Inc, I just stop using mencoder. I let you play with this alpha released encoder

Now that's bad news
I always expected that you could give us a push forwards.
Can I assume you will still "pay" us a visit in the mencoder forum once in a while

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

Note: I do use a P4 specific build of mencoder.

I assumed you were still using a generic one
Since you use a P4 specific there's no reason for such an unsuccessful trial with mencoder.
I would really like to help but I also don't know mencoder that well...
Cheers buddy

[Dialhot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia

Can I assume you will still "pay" us a visit in the mencoder forum once in a while

For sure, don't worry, I love beta testing but there is something that I can't deal with : the free space on my HD. I had only 8GB free on two discs (120+160) mainly videos waiting to be put on CD. So I can't continue to wait and test . I need to do real work

[jorel]

hey........................your................... ......posts....................................are .............................too.................. .........................large....................

........................................use the.................................. "enter" key............................................... ................to ........................................change ........................................the line or................................................ ........i forgot what.....................i ................................read.............. ..............and ............................i'm................... feeling........................................diz zy.................. ...............running............................ .from right.........................to left.........................all the time..........................to read.............................................. ........the phrases........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ....thanks........................................ ........................................

now,.............................................. . i have to read.............................................. .................................................. .......all again!

[Fluffbutt]

Oh my god Jorel!!!

<Fluffbutt hastily looks for a "PUKE' emoticon>

Oh, we have one..

[Dialhot]

Jorel,

When we copy/paste a mencoder command line is problematic to use 'enter' key because people always try to paste it into a text editor to test it and forget to put it again on one line .