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04-13-2004, 05:38 AM
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I have a movie thats 102 minutes long that when I load into CCE,
Q set to 100 makes a 1300 mb file (somehow I think that wrong)
Can the Q be takin up that high ? what am I doing wrong ?
problem is I need a 1200mb file, what should I do ?

Heres my script (avisynth2.5.5)

Mpeg2Source("D:\Rundown D2V PROJECT\Rundown.d2v")
#
FieldDeinterlace()
undot()
asharp(1, 4)
GripCrop(704, 480, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
#
#

## Linear Motion Adaptive Filtering ##
#
# ( Portions from AviSynth's manual )
# This will apply variable temporalsoften
# and variable blur.
# Both filters are active at all times, and work inversely proportional to the
# activity, measured from current frame to next frame.

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")

#
#
#

GripBorders()
VobSub("D:\The Rundown\VTS_01_0")
LetterBox(16, 16, 16, 16) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker!

#
#
## Functions ###

function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}

#
####
sampler(length=1


also I need the code for avisynth sampler (18 gop)
had it forgot & lost it, can someone tell me if its supposed to be

sampler(length=1 ??

or

sampler(1 ??

thanks in advance
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CCE at Q=100 give unacceptable quality.

recomendations is Q=40 max...CCE give better quality with less Q values.
Q=10 give better quality than Q=40 but it encrease the size too.

for that target you will need to use tmpgenc, i think !
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its really weird cuz ive put a 2 hour movie to 1250 mb b4 at Q 60 BUT now it wont do a shorter movie? wtf? LOL
ANY IDEA'S?
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its really weird cuz ive put a 2 hour movie to 1250 mb b4 at Q 60 BUT now it wont do a shorter movie? wtf? LOL
ANY IDEA'S?
the first that you did isn't different in aspect radio, dark scenes,
less moviments, forcedfilm, audio bitrate....more differences?
something is different, i trust!

and the result with Q=60 for 2 hours at 1250mb give good quality for you?
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i did toy story 1 (main movie)
with vmesquita template for CCE266 at Q=20,
using the MA Kwag's script and got 1,05GB (video only)!
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so put in english what does this mean ? I'm encoding wrong or its just the movie ?
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so put in english what does this mean ? I'm encoding wrong or its just the movie ?
oh...sorry for late...

in english it means:

your target is 1,2GB, (seems) with audio (that you don't post his size)
but you're using CCE with Q=100 (that is horrible) from a source with 102 minutes.
your argument was:
"its really weird cuz ive put a 2 hour movie to 1250 mb b4 at Q 60 BUT now it wont do a shorter movie?"...."ANY IDEA'S?"

i ask you about the differences from the sources in the first and second encode....
and i post that got less size using Q=20 (better results than 60 or 100)
the script and template used !

then you ask me:
" I'm encoding wrong or its just the movie ?"


in english it means:
this is what i asked you ---> and again:

the first that you did isn't different in aspect radio, dark scenes,
less moviments, forcedfilm, audio bitrate....more differences?
something is different, i trust!
and the result with Q=60 for 2 hours at 1250mb give good quality for you?
.....clear
oh of course..excuse my horrible english!
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well my friend q 60 worked out alot better for me than 100 q LOL
thanks for the reply,
so this means that some movies cant be made with cce ?
tmpgenc take too long
Think i'm gonna stick with "Elby Clone DVD 2"
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well my friend q 60 worked out alot better for me than 100 q LOL
thanks for the reply,
so this means that some movies cant be made with cce ?
tmpgenc take too long
Think i'm gonna stick with "Elby Clone DVD 2"
just a few about Elby Clone DVD
cannot compress different items differently
does not work with DVD43 ( don't know actually)
encode with 8 bytes not 10( i'm uncertain too)

all movies can be made using CCE, the problem is the size of your target using this source!
with tmpgenc is "too long" but you will got the desired size easily!
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@ The Untouchable !
What's important in all video conversions is video final quality and not way or Q value you did it !!!!
How is the quality of video on Q 100 ???
IF it's acceptable for you then Q value doesn't metter at all !!!
If quality unacceptable than probably there is some problem with avisynth or CCE . Reinstalling of both of them could fix the problem
Hope it helps
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