KVCD guide to cram two mpeg-1 videos into one CD-R ?
There are many posts floating around (not including mine) asking how to go about cram 2 mpg1 into 1 KVCD. If its not too much to ask, could a guide be done on this? It would be very helpful and solve many questions a newbie has about doing this. And perhaps reduce the number of posts made about this subject. THis is just a suggestion...
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@wowiegurl,
Simply open each .mpg file(s) with DVD2AVI as input. Then follow any of the DVD to KVCD guides. Depending on the mpeg quality and output resolution will determine picture quality :) -BP |
DVD2AVI doesn't seem to like my MPG1 files. What can I do?
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@wowiegurl,
Use VirtualDub and go to file --> File Information --> look at video and audio stream. Let me know what information is there. :) -BP |
video 352x288 25fps
audio 44hz 244kbps thanks so much :oops: |
Use the same scripts as with AVI files, only exchange AVISource for DirectShowSource. If you load the AVI file like this: AVISource("path\clip.avi") , use DirectShowSource("path\clip.avi",audio=false,fps=2 5) instead. You should extract the audio in VirtualDubMod and process it separately, that's why the audio has been disabled in the DirectShowSource line.
This way it might work. |
There is one thing I don't understand.
Why do you try to convert VCD material to KVCD? The quality won't be any better, in fact it will suffer greatly from re-encoding. Any DVD-player should be able to play VCDs so that is not the problem. |
hi boulder,
actually im my limited experience with 2cds to 1 cd KVCD there is no noticable loss after encoding. so most people prefer to have 1 cd instead of getting up to change em. i think thats why anyhoo ;) cheers KYUSS |
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have you tried the acp guide m8?
just plough on and try it................what have you wasted? time? i tell you it works m8 i have done it. |
I have but got stuck.
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Well I'd rather have 1 cd than 2 but the learning process to doing this is very difficult but I don't mind. Once I figure out how to do things it will be much easier and I'll save more money as well.
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Just get a 99min. CD-R, and cram the movie on that one... :roll:
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@wowiegurl,
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problem though. Your mpg1 vcd files when merged as one will be greater than 1 80min CDR. I believe you said 850mb. Combining them into 1 KVCD will not reduce their total very much. You will still exceed 1 80min CDR. It would look worse when re-encoded at a lower CQ to fit 1 80min CDR. So, this approach dosen't look promising :cry: -BP |
combining them allows you to put 2 800mb (or even 3) mpgs onto 1 cd and the quality is exactly the same as original in my eyes m8......whether its VCD or SVCD.
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@KYUSS,
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compressed onto 1 80min CDR with no quality loss. PLEASEEEEEE!! share your secret :) -BP |
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KVCD/KSVCD templates :P the cd i have seen with a 3 cd movie put on 1 cdr was svcd.....its QT's5th and the 3rd cd was undersized so i think it was 635mb or something. but i am not guffing.......to my eyes (maybe they need testing:P ) no quality loss is noticeable. have you tried it m8? cheers KYUSS |
@wowiegurl,
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have the same resolution (352x288, PAL) and check what the audio format is (i.e. .mp2). Now check for a PAL version of KVCD at 352x288 template. As I last remember you had a problem with DVD2AVI. Could you be more detailed about this problem and what error messages. What were your settings for DVD2AVI for video (force file should be OFF). I believe you could get your movies on 1 KVCD with little or no picture loss :) -BP |
AFAIK DVD2AVI doesn't work properly with mpeg1 files.
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@Abond, Your right about dvd2avi :cry:
@wowiegurl, but this works: :) Seems there is no easy way to do this and most don't try because the picture quality can only look worse. But you're mpeg1's total ~900MB and that's not too bad to compress it to 800mb. You wanted to use KVCD templates and so the process is complicated. Here's a quick start and I know there will be lots of questions. So, I'll start with these steps: 1) download "filemerger" to join mpeg1 files as one output file (i.e. movie.mpg) link: http://home.planet.nl/~doesw008/filemerger.html 2) Use this link to use CQMatic and CalcuMatic: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5145 3) When finished video-only, use VirdualDub to extract audio as .wav. 4) Convert .wav to .mp2 5) Use Mplex to merge audio with video as you new mpeg1 6) Burn -BP |
WMA? 8O
Sorry for the remark, I think you meant WAV |
@Abond,
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from mpeg1 and converted it with Headac3he to .mp2. I've been rushing around today trying to take care of so many things :roll: -BP |
@WOWIEGURL
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a basic script would be something like: a=directshowsource("part1.mpg").killaudio() b=directshowsource("part2.mpg").killaudio() movie=a+b LanczosResize(movie, 352, 288) then load the .avs into tmpgenc, make a project file, close tmpgenc, load project file (tpr) with cqmatic set for 1 cd, extract audio from clips with vdub, reencode audio, join m1v file with audio (mp2), burn |
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cheers KYUSS |
@KYUSS,
one way is to load the first mpeg into Goldwave (it extracts audio and converts to wav) ; load the second mpeg and copy the wav to the clipboard ; then paste the second to the end of the first one and save as .wav or you could extract the audio with VDub and join the wav files with Goldwave, CoolEdit, etc.. ren |
You don't have to join the mpg file.
You can also just encode 2 files seperately and burn , plays without any problem. Demux the mpg file and get the mp2 Audio file and re-encode to 112 or 128 as required. predict file size = Video data / runtime If you have 650mb for video and total runtime of 110 mins with 1st file having runtime 70 mins. 650/110 = 5.90 First Mpg video size will be 5.90*70= 413mb Secong Mpg file = 237mb. So just use the script for avi file by Dialhot change the source line directshowsource("x.mpg").killaudio The procedure is the same as avi 2 kvcd. |
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Runtime is the length of the movie.
Alrite try this , it should be easier. Use Tmpgenc and Goto Mpeg tools > Merge Select your multiple mpeg1 files in order and merge them. Play and check that they are fine and in sync. Then De-Multiplex the sound from this mpg file. Encode is to 112kbps or 128 kbps as you like. Use Dialhot's V4 script and just change the Source line to Directshowsource("movie.mpg").killaudio() ConverttoYv12() So just use Cqmatic and let it predict the cq for you. |
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Its only kvcd's muxed as svcd's that can support 2 audio streams rite? BUt I don't know how though.COuld you show how to please? Thanks
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By the way after merging the files the sound is in sync with the video.. at least thats one thing thats worked properly I've changed my file and the information is 352*288 25fps. 44hz mixed stereo,224kbps layer 2. # of frames 200313. Average bitrate 1140kbps. This file has dual audio streams and I would like to keep it as a PAL KVCD. By the way when I try to load the movie that I merged into 1 into tmpgenc it doesn't accept it.Unsupported format. |
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@WOWIEGURL
Well, I read this thread from the beginning and found out that nothing is clear. Now maybe it is not bad idea to explain again what you have and what you want to do with this. |
@WOWIEGURL,
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audio stream. Try Tmpgenc with just one mpeg-1 file and see if it will accept it. There are many ways to skin this cat and some are easier (mine may not be) than others. Dvdavi accepts mpeg-2 format and it wouldn't reconize your's so I believe your mpeg's are mpeg-1. If it is dual audio then what language are they (i.e. english, spanish, etc.) Give us more information about what has worked so far and that will help us get you to the next step :wink: -BP |
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1.Load the VCDPal.mcf template.- I want to make it a PAL cd - with dual audio <- I've noticed there are other .mcf (I think) templates at this address http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html should I download those mcf files and use those instead?Which one of those files do you recommend I use? My files tend not to be high action movies. 2.In the audio source- browse - try to load the merged file. 3.The file is unsupported or can't open.<-MESSAGE FROM TMPGENC -its really pissing me off |
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its a vcd source
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The best way would be to use an avisynth script to read the mpeg1 file within Tmpgenc.
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