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05-26-2004, 04:43 AM
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Error in link when I try download the last CVS Mencoder Builds.

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Leistungsumfang überschritten, siehe:
http://home.arcor.de/error/.suspend.html
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Wait a litte. Too many downloads on inc.'s server.
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According to ffvfw.dll or ffvfw.ax .... I think its enough if the right codecs.conf (incl. the Makeavis description) is placed in the mplayer folder within the folder where mencoder is stored which points to the system installed ffvfw.dll/.ax
u're right but ... these cvs builds do not(!) contain any codecs.conf. dunno why. if u need i got it from another snapshot site. it's very useful if other than vobs are to be transcoded (divx, xvid, ...) i wrote a simple codecs.conf for my sources. it needs only 2 instances; 1 for avis and another for mpeg4 sources.

to those who want to use ffdshow & ffvfw/makeavis at once (if mods find this part too 'dirty', feel free to remove)
problem : ffdshow creates avis but not serves (steady ICDecomprError only) since 040501. i asked the maintaners about it but no answer so far.
for those who uses ffdshow it means that two instances of ffvfw must be installed. so ...
- install ffvfwAVIS-20031113 (sh0dan's hack)
- copy : ffvfw.dll (from system32) & libmplayer.dll (from ffvfwAVIS install dir) to the mencoder folder. hack codecs.conf as given above (ffvfw.dll).
- uninstall ffvfw
- install ffdshow (remember to click makavis!). this way makeavis can be used wout ffdshow.ax support.
i've tested this q&d hack up to the very last ffdshow release (040520). it worx.

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the newest ffdshows(ffvfw) contain a pretty nice h264 implementation. worth to try !
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05-26-2004, 08:25 AM
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yaz I (and for shurely we all here in mencoder testing environment) do apreciate very much your nice tricks!! These are sexy hints/thoughts for figuring out more and more
I do not think that your breaking a license or so as you dont modify something or distribute something of these licensed drivers.

I still think there must be an option to get d2v decoded by mencoders int. decoder engine.

My WMP Classic can easely read DIRECTLY d2v files as I got the d2vsource.ax installed and registered in my system.
(BTW I also got that avsreader.dll installed ---- mabe we ... hmmmm)

So as I understand ... its should be possible to build and entry in the condecs.conf that if an d2v sources comes in that pointer links to the "d2vsource.ax" as we have been doing this in case of Makeavis and ffvfw.dll

So what do you think about if we can make a "resumeé" what has to be included in the folder where mencoder.exe exists
Asby this we can just take the latest MplayerHQ MinGW build and copy it in a directory where x y z thing have to be.

As I remeber the system codecs have to be (if not included in the compiling) in the "codecs" folder of within the folder where mencoder.exe is stored?
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05-26-2004, 09:27 AM
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I still think there must be an option to get d2v decoded by mencoders int. decoder engine.
sure but (imho) there's no way of of direct read (as we discussed elswhere). as d2v is a script file (just like avs) it must be 'wrapped' into a fake avi just because of this stupid 4cc business.
anyway, files having no 4cc give back 0 for it so it could be a starting point for further investigation.
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My WMP Classic can easely read DIRECTLY d2v files as I got the d2vsource.ax installed and registered in my system.
mpc has its own d2v parser no further 'ax' is needed. no surprise, gabest compiled d2vsource into mpc. they are his children
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(BTW I also got that avsreader.dll installed ---- mabe we ... hmmmm)
the prob here is again with the 4cc.
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So what do you think about if we can make a "resumeé" what has to be included in the folder where mencoder.exe exists
As by this we can just take the latest MplayerHQ MinGW build and copy it in a directory where x y z thing have to be.
i have mencoder, ffvfw.dll, libmplayer.dll in the root & codecs.conf in the ./mplayer folder. if u want no errmsg anymore u should put ./mplayer/font directory with some fonts in it but it's not essential.
on renewal i simply overwrite the old (mingw) mencoder with the new one. easy (clear, dry & good )
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As I remeber the system codecs have to be (if not included in the compiling) in the "codecs" folder of within the folder where mencoder.exe is stored?
don't get what u mean with 'system codecs'. the 'original' codecs.conf contains hundreds of codec defs but it is where i pointed above. is that what u talked about ?

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05-26-2004, 06:10 PM
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don't get what u mean with 'system codecs'. the 'original' codecs.conf contains hundreds of codec defs but it is where i pointed above. is that what u talked about ?

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Hi yaz,
Most surely Inc. meant to say that the codecs folder is where ffvfw.dll, ffdshow.ax or d2vsource.ax... need to be copied into as it is where the encoder will look for those in the 1st place in case of unspecified path in the codecs.conf file.
That's where I put ffvfw.dll and I have no problems.
Boy, I wondered why I couldn't make ffdshow.ax work with mencoder anymore.
After all the compatibility has been broken.
As it started happening right after I format my PC I wondered what my system was missing
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05-27-2004, 10:18 AM
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Regardless of what compiler systems it uses, doesn't windows force a program to look first in system32 (or system for 9x) for drivers, THEN fallback to it's own directory?

So those drivers/codecs should work if they were in system 32...
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I don't test it yet, but here's a MEncoder version which supports direct encoding out of AVS-Scripts:

http://ffdshow.sf.net/mencoderAVS.rar
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05-31-2004, 06:13 PM
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You mean the one from milan.
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10724

That one has already been discussed .... and its NOT a final release! Therefore mega Beta.
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A question : I tryed bin of 18 may but I does'nt even start because it can find a strange ttf font

How can I avoid that ? And why it is looking for a font (apparently used for subtitles) while I do NOT do subtitles ?
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in my case it also fials loading the fond BUT that doesnt doesnt matter for the rest of mencoder
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in my case it also fials loading the fond BUT that doesnt doesnt matter for the rest of mencoder
How ! Perharps there was an other error message so. That is strange because I came back to old mencoder.exe and the encoding start with no problems.
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06-01-2004, 04:11 AM
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IF you download at that mplayer CVS win32beta build page NOT the daliy snapshot but the regular version ... this will come with all the needed folders, means the hierarchical folder architecture.

Then change that mencoder.exe with the one from 18may.

Now ... do look WHERE the log tries to find that Font file (the path).

Now goto the downloadarea of mplayerhq.hu and download a mplayer font description of your choice. Do generate a "fonts" folder in the mplayer folder beside codecs ... drivers .. and mplayer folders WITHIN the main Mplayer folder where mencoder.exe is stored.

Do copy the font descriptions into THAT new fonts folder.
Do open in mplayer/mplayer the "config" script.
Do enter there the absolute! path to the right font desc file.

Now do run mencoder again and the font should be found!

BTW: I dont know WHY they tell something about a TTF font support, as IF you set the path to a simply .ttf font file ... it fails. So a "real" mplayer font desc file is needed as explained above.

I still dont beleive that your menocder run fails on the non existing font file!
I think something else is missed, but if you do copy the regular mplayer folder with its needed included folders from the released (not Daily CVS) downloadlink ... this will make all needed folder beeing present on your drive and IF something is missed, you simply can download it at mplayerhq.hu and put it in the correct folder within that folder architecture of mplayer.


IF there will be no license conflicts, in the next packshot release I will offer a "whole" folder of Packshot where everything is included like mencoder.exe, mplayer.exe, ffmakeavis (and its needed dll files) ... the font desc's and needed codecs dlls.
As all that complicated extra downloading of stuff is Veeeery confusing for noobs.
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06-01-2004, 09:38 AM
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... the codecs folder is where ffvfw.dll, ffdshow.ax or d2vsource.ax... need to be copied into as it is where the encoder will look for those in the 1st place in case of unspecified path in the codecs.conf file.
i don't know the order but codec files are right in the system32 folder or right besides mencoder.exe. otherwise u must specify the path.
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Boy, I wondered why I couldn't make ffdshow.ax work with mencoder anymore.
After all the compatibility has been broken.
As it started happening right after I format my PC I wondered what my system was missing
ffdshow does not serve since 040501. former releases worx fine for me.

@all (interested)
i went a bit further with this serving busines & now i have a(n almost) complete codecs.conf. seems like this :
Code:
release 20040529

videocodec makeavis
  info "FFvfw makeavis"
  status working
  fourcc AVIS
  driver vfw
  dll ffvfw.dll
  out YV12

videocodec MPEG4
  info "Generic MPEG-4 decoder"
  status working
  fourcc DIVX,divx,DivX
  fourcc xvid,XVID,XviD,XVIX
  fourcc DX50,dx50,BLZ0    ; divx5
  fourcc mp4v,MP4V   ; yes, yes it's got :-)
  format 0x4              ; mpeg 4 format give this fmt
  format 0x10000004  ; ... or this 
  driver ffmpeg
  dll mpeg4
  out YV12,YUY2
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- the ffvfw support is as i outlined above. (dll's are in the 'mencoder' folder) for generating avis i use the newest ffdshow.
- mpeg4 input is supported from the core ! no add's needed, just put that lines into the codecs.conf ! (of course, the ffmpeg lib must be compiled into the mencoder, but it is by def.)
the mpeg4 fourcc list is incomplete, it contains only what i have it at hand for testing. the mpeg4 decoder of ffmeg is really 'generic'. say, i'm sure it'd serve divx3/4 & 3ivx too but i couldn't test it. do it if u need. 1st find the 4cc in the avi in quest (gspot, fourcc changers, ...) then add its 4cc to the mpeg4 list. should work.
mencoder handles the input in a quite cute way. say, it always corrected the AR to the proper value if it wasn't that. (good old times ... who cared about such things like AR ? )

i haven't found any solution for d2v serve but the more i think about it the less pointless i find it vobs are supported directly so why to bother about it ?

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06-01-2004, 11:10 AM
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i haven't found any solution for d2v serve but the more i think about it the less pointless i find it vobs are supported directly so why to bother about it ?
Win98 users?? Who cant get large 1file Vobs to disk??

OR .. did you found out how the correct command is to bring mutiple VOBs into mencoder, ... like "cat" or something??

Your reduced codecs.conf makes really sense, the only thing I would add is a mjpeg YUY2 and a HUFFYUV YUY2 support as some users do deal with captured streams.
Question .... IF I do compile mencoder and do set before the codecs.conf (in the "etc" folder of the CVS) to the same as yours above..... will these drivers/dlls be included in the build? Means do I still need to store them in mencoders folder?
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06-02-2004, 09:51 AM
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OR .. did you found out how the correct command is to bring mutiple VOBs into mencoder, ... like "cat" or something??
d2v wrapped into a serving avisynth(mpeg2dec3dg) wrapped with makeavis ... eeehm ... meant u this ? not elegant but worx
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Your reduced codecs.conf makes really sense, the only thing I would add is a mjpeg YUY2 and a HUFFYUV YUY2 support as some users do deal with captured streams.
ffmpeg supports mjpeg too ! add sg like this to the aboves
Code:
videocodec mjpeg
  info "FFmpeg MJPEG decoder"
  status working
  fourcc MJPG,mjpg
  fourcc JPEG,jpeg       ; ... & whatever else u know
  driver ffmpeg
  dll mjpeg
  out YV12,IYUV
that's all i know about mjpeg
for huffy we got pretty nice vfw decoders (huffyuv.dll). it should work the way ffvfw does. sorry but i can't test any of these.
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... IF I do compile mencoder and do set before the codecs.conf (in the "etc" folder of the CVS) to the same as yours above..... will these drivers/dlls be included in the build? Means do I still need to store them in mencoders folder?
theoretically any (vfw) decoder dll can be compiled into mencoder but i'm too lame about it. u should search mplayerhq/docs ... as if there were a big collection of codecs for compilation (???) anyway, copying the necessary dlls is working for me & does not harm any 'licensing issue'. in add., it cause no nuisance on mencoder renewal.

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06-02-2004, 02:00 PM
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Hi yaz ,
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d2v wrapped into a serving avisynth(mpeg2dec3dg) wrapped with makeavis ... eeehm ... meant u this ? not elegant but worx
I don't consider that an option. elegant or not the point is some pretty old machines like the one I had will go a lot slower just because we're wrapping it in an AVS script.
*nix "cat" command is the same as windows "type" command (although I'm not sure if it is present in win9x/NT/2000...).
The problem is mencoder goes nuts when used under winxp with type but works fine with cat under linux. Not that it doesn't encode or something but all the while-encoding statistics go crazy.
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theoretically any (vfw) decoder dll can be compiled into mencoder but i'm too lame about it. u should search mplayerhq/docs ... as if there were a big collection of codecs for compilation (???) anyway, copying the necessary dlls is working for me & does not harm any 'licensing issue'. in add., it cause no nuisance on mencoder renewal.
I think that a monolitic version of mencoder is a very strange approach even because if we run into problems we don't know if it's because it has our dlls built-in or if it's because the develp. team screwed up big time.
Also there is the licensing issue because of embeding the dll in mencoder.
Though, we should come up with an installer that installs mencoder in a given folder on user request and that needs to know where are some files and so the user just have to point the installer to those needed files.
Pretty wild thought, huh?
I wish I knew how to do that
Anyway just my two cents.
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