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Let say I open a text editor. I open the avs script, and want to see also the bat. Menu -> File -> Open... Oh sh!t I have to navigate till the engine directory...
But you can make a direct access like:

Notepad.exe path to encode.bat
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But you can make a direct access like:

Notepad.exe path to encode.bat
Read again my post and you will see that this doesn't cover my need. The problem isn't to access quicly to a file (I can do that with a right click on the filename then 'open with'). The problem is that it's boring to have to browse accross the directories when you are already in a text editor and you want to open an other file.

Note : drop Notepad and use some real text editor like textpad for instance
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I got an idea how this can be working ... simply getting the systempath of mencoders.exe installation and applying that "whole" mencode.exe path at the beginning of the TargetName.bat file, then the Target can be safed by the GUI to the target directory and you can run that .bat from wherever you want on your System

.... added to ToDo list.
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Two points:

1 - Weren't you going to add the ability to save a bat file rather than encode right away (I can't find anything to save the bat file, nor can I find a bat file after packshot starts mencoder.. Got the 102.2 version).

2 - If this is meant to be a generic mencoder front end, can you add the switch/drop down for mpeg1video (and associated keyint, etc, settings). Please.

3 - It's very nice so far, I like the ability to setup audio and video at same time. Needs a litle more tuning tho (#2 above).

Thanks, mate, looking forwards to more P'Shots
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05-18-2004, 09:59 AM
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Two points:

1 - Weren't you going to add the ability to save a bat file rather than encode right away (I can't find anything to save the bat file, nor can I find a bat file after packshot starts mencoder.. Got the 102.2 version).
encode.bat is safed in the engines folder.

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2 - If this is meant to be a generic mencoder front end, can you add the switch/drop down for mpeg1video (and associated keyint, etc, settings). Please.
Till we dont know how to get best out of mpeg1 and mencoder it doesnt make sense to offer it as many tests did end up in problems and btw. mpeg2 is still better at low bitrates - Kwag confirmed that.

Keyint is called "GOP" in Packshot ... as Keyint defines the GOP length and as you see there 15,18,24,25 ... you can imagine

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3 - It's very nice so far, I like the ability to setup audio and video at same time. Needs a litle more tuning tho (#2 above).
More tuning?? Well This is its first state after a long programming time, and only the sky according to options is the limit.

I will add more and more things!, even muxing ... but I do think the GUI in This state delivers a lot of settings and that in a non-complex interface - and this was the purpose .... sorry but I gotta say that.

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Thanks, mate, looking forwards to more P'Shots
Theres much on my ToDo list and this GUI will grow up more and more
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05-18-2004, 10:07 AM
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Oh hey, don't take my words 'more tuning' as a critisism, it wasn't.

I'd never look a gift pie in the mouth (mixed metaphors - I love 'em!!), I either eat it up (use it)or leave it for someone else to eat. And I definitely ate this one all up, and licked the plate clean - I like PackShot a LOT. You've got the idea perfect - a lean, clean tick-box/dropdown/textbox interface without lots of tab pages and stuff.

My comments were in no way meant to be (or sound) nasty.. sorry if that's how they came across.

(Actually, I've had excellent results from mencoder and mpg1 - 115 min with 128kbps audio in 770Mb, and very good quality (good quality on pc, VGood on standalone dvd player).

Thanks for telling me where the bat files are (I actually did a dos dir /s *.bat, trying to find it.. LOL!!
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05-18-2004, 10:23 AM
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Oh hey, don't take my words 'more tuning' as a critisism, it wasn't.
Im coooool I understood everything clear and well and didnt misinterprete your purpose
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...OR the Mencoder filters will be switched OFF when doing a interlaced encoding ... as Im quite shure that avisynth still offers the best methods for treating/filtering interlaced material.
OK Inc, that's a good aproximation to the question, leave avisynth do the job (I hope we'll be able soon to use mencoderAVS smoothly ).
Anyway, if you leave mencoder do the interlaced encoding, remember the option to add ilme:ildct (it's supposed to do better, I used it and looked well, but didn't test an interlaced encoding without to compare)
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Oh hey, don't take my words 'more tuning' as a critisism, it wasn't.
Im coooool I understood everything clear and well and didnt misinterprete your purpose
Coool - I'm a NICE pussycat!!! <purrrrrrrr>
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05-22-2004, 09:59 AM
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Hi Inc.,
Soon you will find yourself with lack of room for the enhancements we have been asking for Packshot.
That is: Packshot window will be out of bounds on 800x600 to accomodate all the options, and we know that 800x600 is still the average.
Also with the new mencalculator. If it gets inside Packshot less room again.
I wonder if you could remake the GUI .
- a tab for sources (audio+video) and targets (audio+video) paths.
- another tab for video encoding options, filters and mencalc button with copy pate into packshot command line
- and yet another tab for audio encoding options
And don't say you have to do it now.
Just think about it for near future, will you
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05-22-2004, 10:19 AM
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Hi Inc.,
Soon you will find yourself with lack of room for the enhancements we have been asking for Packshot.
That is: Packshot window will be out of bounds on 800x600 to accomodate all the options, and we know that 800x600 is still the average.
Well 800x600 is nothing
But as there have been NO problems when using VMs MencodeME, I can easy go to that wondow height also.
My problem is ... I hate tabs And Ill try to avoid them as I can.
As I know 1024x768 is more the standard now, as many are already using a 17inch display, and even on a 15inch one that resolution is easy for viewing.

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Also with the new mencalculator. If it gets inside Packshot less room again.
Well I will look how that will be applied,
a) as a called self window (like in CQmatic when you call Calcumatic there)
b) implementated in Packshot window, but you wont see all these little info screens ... and if you are in doubt, you can check using the mencalc standalone prg for comparing

The "problem" is ... I want to enjoy also a bit of the sun which is shining here in cologne ... and I did spend 2-3 days now for that size calculator where its main purpose was it to be implementated in packshot.

And I do agree that more an more and more option will shout for a complete window reprogramming.

I wanted to keep packshot as simple to use as its possible, and the main problem is now, to find a way how this still can be done without presenting noobs a hell complex programm so they run away.

As you see by the size calculator ... new packshot is in progress!

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Hi Inc.
Do enjoy as much as possible these sunny/hot days
All in all, I was just talking about the future.
We just present a list of bugs (if any ) and a wish list.
You decide what is better to use, of course.
In fact both Packshot and MencodeMe are plain working tools at this very moment and they ease a lot the pain of applying options in the command line.
So no need to change any of those immediatly.
Cheers pal.
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05-22-2004, 01:22 PM
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o.k. It's a lil bit Off Topic... but I'd love to see mpeg4 encoding support in your great application...

It can use the same commandline afaik besides the mpeg4 switch
(it can use some extra params... but resizing and filtering stay the same )
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05-22-2004, 04:11 PM
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wrong forum my friend ( )

Well seriuosly ... I first have to get everything fine working in this mpeg2 state and for shure it will be bigger and bigger by this more complex.

Maybe I could release sometime if all that is done a special mpeg4 version?!

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05-22-2004, 04:56 PM
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I told you it was off-topic
A special MPEG4 Version would be great
But I am already satisfied with the ability to edit the commandline per hand...
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-log file
-process priority
-image postprocessing preview (for adjusts before encode)
-tiny progressbar (blinking ?)<--(irrelevant but is beautiful, better than cm32 "dos window")
-special PackShot icon (for desktop link) <--(irrelevant but is beautiful)


ink, i forgot to ask (can't find a better place)
in the "resizing" --> "target", the options with ovsc are overscan 1, 2 or 3?
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@ All

Status Quo of actual Packshot Developement:

1. ...
As wanted I'll integrate the possibiliy of individual mpeg4/Avi inputs and therefore auto resizing to KsVCD/kDVD compilant resolutions for encoding will be supported. That was the intention of coding the routine of MenClac which mainly was purposed for Packshot internal use But I provided it also as a Standlanoe App. before as many users also like to go into manual commandline processing.

The supported AVI inputs have to have a PC Screen "Pixel Aspect Ratio" of 1:1, which is standard at mpeg4.
Captured avis do have ONLY a PAR of 1:1 if captured in PAL 768x576 or 384x288! A capture of 352x576 for example gots a PAR of 1:2 as its squeezed in its width, so do remember that!
In NTSC a capture at PAR 1:1 is 640x480 or 320x240.

BUT as in case of captures we have to postprocess our stream by using multiple Trim's to cut out commercials which is not supported by Mencoder (now) we anyway have to do that in Avisynth before.
Resumeé: Do feed your captures in future Packshot versions by the MakeAvis AVI way!

2. ...
A Bitratecalculator will be integrated so you can calculate your avg bitrate which is needed for 1, 2 or 3 Movies on one DVD-R -- individual bitrate determined multiple audio tracks for each movie will be respected in the calculation.

3. ...
As many users still want to tweak the generated Commandline before starting the encoding, a "Commandline Only" option will be available.

4. ...
The "encoding.bat" will include the whole paths of the called engines and so the geneated bat file will have the target file name in its File name included and will be safed to the same folder/path where the target streams will be encoded. Means: In the .bat file the call of "mencoder" and "besweet" will have the whole path to these executables so you can process them later from everywhere you want on your disk as an internal routine of packshot will recognise where mencoder and besweet are stored on your hd.

5. ...
All DVD/Svcd and therefor KsVCD target resolutions will be supported so encodings for 1CD is possible at mpeg2 (I dont see the advantage of mpeg1 in case of mencoder)

6. ...
A "Debug" Button will be integrated beside the "start encoding" one.
That will generate a "Pause" command at the end of the commandline in the .bat file, ... so if a problem exists the console window will stay active and by this you easely can see whats going wrong in the process.

7. ...
Multiplex will be supported:
- for one CD targets
- And for DVD IF you want to go into DVDauthor (linux win32builds/GUI for windows) as that one needs ready muxed streams. In case of other Windows DVD Athoring Apps. do choose NO muxing as it will be done in these Apps. when generating the VOBs.

(8. ...)
(Implementating a "Cut Credits" input field, which tells the encoder untill which sec. he should encode - also that must be told to the besweet encoding as if not your audio will be longer afterwards --- so I have to find out these options in mencoder and besweet.
Unfortunately Mencoder ONLY accepts for that (encode until ...) command a value in seconds and NOT frames, so this option will also be available in packshot but it needs "deeper" programming.

(9. ...)
(First I have to find out "how" a console start comand can be done where I can set Process priority! ... But in case of MencodeME that wasnt suggested by the users, so why here??? )

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So all this is in coding progress and as Im employed I only can do that evening by evening ...

Greets Inc.
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...mpeg4/Avi inputs ? oh my GOD, here came "problems"!
feature request (maybe too stup but sincere):---> forget mpeg4/Avi inputs
let PackShot only for DVDs sources, please!
build another one for mpeg4/Avi inputs called "OhNoShoot" !

ink wrote:
"... But in case of MencodeME that wasnt suggested by the users, so why here??? ) "
like i told you, the pc run too heavy and if i open the win explorer the system crash!
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05-23-2004, 09:21 AM
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...mpeg4/Avi inputs ? oh my GOD, here came "problems"!
feature request (maybe too stup but sincere):---> forget mpeg4/Avi inputs
let PackShot only for DVDs sources, please!
build another one for mpeg4/Avi inputs called "OhNoShoot" !
Whats the problem about it??
As we are talking abou Avi INPUTS and not Outputs.
Why do you think I developed that Size Calculation engine incl. avi 1:1 Resizing (mpeg4) support?

I did encode a good XVID some days ago and it came out PERFECT

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"... But in case of MencodeME that wasnt suggested by the users, so why here??? ) "
like i told you, the pc run too heavy and if i open the win explorer the system crash!
Why do you got that problem only with packshot and not with MencodeME as you there also CANT affect the Process priority. I also have Win2000 running and no Probs! To me it seems you can (IMHO) set the console apps in general to a process priority??? As If Im encoding I can do a lot of other things ... and that wont be possible only of a "little" better CPU (seen in relation) to a lower one.
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