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I have some questions about merging audio with video though.
With which program can I merge them? m2v and MP2?
tmpgenc, menu file, mpeg tools, simple multiplex. Be sure to choose 'mpeg2 supervideo CD' as muxing mode before to click "OK".

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What's the deal there?
Are you sure the audio wasn't there ? How did you checked that ? I never had any problem with this.

If the audio is in the green part of the time line, it will be on the disc. But you have perhaps to check the content of the IFO file after the compile. Go into the 'tools' nemu and you will find a 'edit IFO for audio' or something like this.

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Also on the HD in the folder i speccified for DVDlab the TS Audio folder was empty while TS video contained data.
Video-ts contains all datas needed on a DVD Video (video + audio + menu).
Audio_ts is used for DVD Audio only.
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I played a burned DVD and there was no sound-in standalone or PC.
Also while previewing video at the timeline there's no sound.

In IFO editor it is set to MPEG sound.
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05-25-2004, 02:40 AM
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Damn it. Confusion again.

I now ran full size video (42 minutes) not 1 min sample through this script and the files are larger than without the script

I tried all 4 modes over night. Source interlaced, rendering as progressive,vice versa and both either interlaced or noninterlaced.

The smallest is the one that has (source interlaced) and rendering in progressive.

What could be wrong?
Why are these files larger than with the previously tried scripts. Not much about 100 MBs but still. Isn't deinterlacing supposed to make them smaller?
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05-25-2004, 02:44 AM
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Could you make a small sample of that clip (unprocessed) available somewhere? Maybe 25 frames from a scene with motion so it'll be easier to investigate.
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Can I mail it to you? If so, just email me at kmecka@primorska.com and I'll send it to you.

It would be much better if you take a look at it sinc half the time I don't know what I am doing

Just to confirm-I sent you the sample to your email-I didn't get any message about bouncing but sometimes emails don't get thfough so if you haven't received it let me know so I resend it...

In the meantime for anyone who knows anything about the following:

When I edit a movie in Pinnacle studio 9 I have choices about which type of
file I want to turn it in.

The main choices are:
mainconcept DV 2.04
DV decompressor
YUV12 format codec
Huffyuv2.11
uncompresses YUY2
uncompressed RGB24
uncompressed UYVY

Which do you recommend for creating KDVDs from them?

Does any of these present a better choice for turning into KDVDs?
I usualy use mainconcept 2.04
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05-25-2004, 06:57 AM
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After having a quick peek at the sample clip, I really don't know why it should produce a smaller file without the MA script. It's regular pure interlaced video and the MA script should work well for you.

Try this simple script:

AVISource("path\clip.avi")
KernelDeint(order=0,sharp=true,threshold=5)
ConverttoYV12()
UnDot()
Deen()

See if it comes out smaller than the file without any scripts.

The latest version of Deen can be found here:

http://atlas2.tgv.net/~media-video/f...49ef7754b3cb21
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05-25-2004, 07:51 AM
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OK I am starting rendering now but I will be out today so I might not post results until tomorow. Hope this works well.
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05-25-2004, 08:13 AM
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OK I am starting rendering now but I will be out today so I might not post results until tomorow. Hope this works well.
You will soon learn to test all solution on a sample project than on the whole video.

We lost since a long time the habit to spent 6 hours to see if blur(0.1) is better than blur(0.2)
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We lost since a long time the habit to spent 6 hours to see if blur(0.1) is better than blur(0.2)
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05-26-2004, 03:47 AM
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Hey, this script made the file smaller and works OK

The sample thing-I was also using a 1 minute sample fiorst but then the previous script made a noticably smaller file than others but after I fed it the entire file in the end the results were not god so I decided to put the entire thing in just to make sure

OK. This script is good (Thanks Boulder). Any potential additional things I should include in it that will make the file even better while not increasing size or even reducing it further?
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05-26-2004, 03:57 AM
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1) use overscan (resize to 688x544 and add 16-pixel borders on each side)

2) replace Deen() with RemoveDirt().TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2) (search the board for the link)
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05-26-2004, 04:22 AM
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OK:

For 1)
How exactly do I do that? What do I write in the script for that overscan,..?
Also, this is still DVD format right? Fully compatible...?
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05-26-2004, 04:37 AM
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Read the documents that came with Avisynth 2.5x, they will explain you how to resize and how to add borders.

The result will naturally be DVD-compliant since the resolution won't change, it's still 720x576. The only difference is that you'll have 16-pixel borders on each side of the picture - and no, you won't see them on your TV.
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05-26-2004, 04:44 AM
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Can't find out the part about the borders. I read about "add borders" in Avisynth manual but I don't get it.

Crop(16, 16, -16, -16) would that be OK?
Do I use Gripcrop for cropping?
Lancos or bicubic?


The removedirt part is easy.

What's wrong with let's say this:
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AVISource("D:\New Folder\Video1")
KernelDeint(order=0,sharp=true,threshold=5)

ConverttoYV12()


GripCrop(688, 544, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")

Crop(16, 16, -16, -16)

UnDot()
asharp(1, 4)

STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )

RemoveDirt().TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)
ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 2) ")


function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}
Virtualdub says Gripcrop: Unrecognized destination frame size.
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05-26-2004, 02:18 PM
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Still haven't figured it out
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05-26-2004, 03:02 PM
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If you use GripCrop, you'll have to use this kind of script:

Code:
AVISource("D:\New Folder\Video1") 
KernelDeint(order=0,sharp=true,threshold=5) 

ConverttoYV12() 

GripCrop(720, 576, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false)

UnDot() 
asharp(1, 4) 

GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")

STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 ) 

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 2) ") 

GripBorders()

function fmin( int f1, int f2) { 
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2 
}
You could also try GripCrop(704, 576, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false) instead of GripCrop(720, 576, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false).

Don't use RemoveDirt().TemporalSoften() with the MA script, you're overfiltering!

EDIT: If you don't want to use the MA script, try this:

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AVISource("D:\New Folder\Video1") 
KernelDeint(order=0,sharp=true,threshold=5) 

ConverttoYV12() 

GripCrop(704, 576, overscan=2, source_anamorphic=false)

UnDot() 

GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")

RemoveDirt()
TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)

GripBorders()
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05-26-2004, 03:23 PM
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Basically I don't know how to crop to 688*544 like you suggested.

I don0t care whether GripCrop or any other thing is used.

I'm trying to follow your suggestion to crop those 16 pixels
I just don't know how to do that.
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05-26-2004, 03:26 PM
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There are the scripts for you, in my previous reply. Use them.

I didn't tell you to crop to 688x544, I told you to resize and add borders.

The GripCrop, GripSize and GripBorders lines do it for you.
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05-26-2004, 03:32 PM
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Oh. Well OK.
Thanks then. I will try both scripts and see which one is better :P

Another question. I have a few MPEG2 files created with that first template.
Can I also deinterlace them with something? Like a script with TMPGenc or something.

Sort of like direct stream copy but with deinterlacing?
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05-27-2004, 12:02 AM
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No, you can't process any clip without re-encoding.
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