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Phil,

i need a faster and precise answer:

why someone download movies from internet ?
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Because:

(1) They are lazy (vagos).
(2) They don't know how to encode video.
(3) They don't care about quality (or have poor eye sight) (ciegos!).
(4) They have a miniature 5" TV set.
(5) They have fast internet access, and can "suck" (maman, chupan) all they want
(6) They don't know what KVCD is
(7) Add more here .........

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04-07-2004, 02:03 PM
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(3) They don't care about quality (or have poor eye sight) (ciegos!).
or maybe just "poor" :P
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04-07-2004, 02:12 PM
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Actually having a computer + a hight speed network link does not enter in my definition of beeing "poor".

When my sister came into my fridge to find some food for my 2 nephews, you can trust me, she didn't dled movies in the meantime.
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04-07-2004, 02:33 PM
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Phil, friendal...

like Kwag posted:
" (7) Add more here ......... "

i'm sure that .... who download the movies don't own the originals!


...or...
right or wrong?
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04-07-2004, 03:22 PM
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Actually having a computer + a hight speed network link does not enter in my definition of beeing "poor".
Well, depends
Cable modem in the states is now ~49.00 per month for 3Mbps
So that's cheaper than buying ~3 DVDs.
So yes, for some people with that speed (for that price), they actually can suck bandwidth from the net, downloading all kinds of stuff.
Here in P.R., with the damn monopoly of the phone company, ADSL costs $60.00 for 256Kbps Downlink/128Kbps Upload

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9) No dvd rom
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9) No dvd rom
different point of view but.....true!
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Even if you have the original DVD it's ILLEGAL to DL an avi version of a movie. So this "no dvd-rom" excuse is just a crap.

The movie you DL is illegaly ripped and distributed by a person commiting a fellony. And thus, you can be charged with "concealing" of illegaly obtained things.

In France, this can lead you up to 2 years in jail and 25000 $US ticket.

Any volonteer ?
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04-07-2004, 07:26 PM
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Even if you have the original DVD it's ILLEGAL to DL an avi version of a movie. So this "no dvd-rom" excuse is just a crap
TRue Phil but i just wanted to add to the list,I like to participate(in this forum) whnever i can
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04-07-2004, 07:37 PM
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You will bring oranges to people following your advice ?
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Even if you have the original DVD it's ILLEGAL to DL an avi version of a movie. So this "no dvd-rom" excuse is just a crap
TRue Phil but i just wanted to add to the list,I like to participate(in this forum) whnever i can
true my friend Phil!
true too my friend bigggt!


Phil wrote:
"In France, this can lead you up to 2 years in jail and 25000 $US ticket."
true?
(of course it is)

"Any volonteer ? "
.....not me!

i don't download any movie!...true!
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04-07-2004, 07:53 PM
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Its not advice ,the last thing i need is people to follow anything i say
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You will bring oranges to people following your advice ?
And movies
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You will bring oranges to people following your advice ?
And movies
and without quality !

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Even if you have the original DVD it's ILLEGAL to DL an avi version of a movie. So this "no dvd-rom" excuse is just a crap.

The movie you DL is illegaly ripped and distributed by a person commiting a fellony. And thus, you can be charged with "concealing" of illegaly obtained things.

In France, this can lead you up to 2 years in jail and 25000 $US ticket.

Any volonteer ?
1 - How about stydy or scientist reasons?
2 - How about 24 hs. deleting?
3 - How a legal DVD owner can get your DVD copy if don't know how to make it. If somebody make it for him, is a felony too?
4 - Is any DVD copy not equal than original (like we makes in here with avisynth, scripts, etc.) a legal copy?
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04-07-2004, 08:38 PM
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1 - How about stydy or scientist reasons?

In España scientists are allowed to commit crimes if this is the subject of their studies ?

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2 - How about 24 hs. deleting?
In Spain you are allowed to rob a bank if you spent the money in less than 24h ?

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3 - How a legal DVD owner can get your DVD copy if don't know how to make it. If somebody make it for him, is a felony too?
In Spain it's a fellony to ask anyone to help you doing LEGAL things like building a house for which you have a valid authorization ?

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4 - Is any DVD copy not equal than original (like we makes in here with avisynth, scripts, etc.) a legal copy?
In Spain it's illegal to record a CD you own on a tape and never listen to the original CD ?

Do you have other questions ?
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Hi Phil: Do you feel husled for my questions?
I make it without any other dark reasons, I sure you.

I can read in many websites "you can download it and keep in your pc for 24 hs...." or "all material in here is for scientis reasons..."

I don't understand why somebody can't download a copy of your own DVD. Download is for free. If i don't know how to make DVD copies, i should pay for this ones.

And "In Spain it's illegal to record a CD you own on a tape and never listen to the original CD ?" CD copied to a tape is not directly modified by owner in the sense that I think you understand. Scripting, enhaces video or makes smaller file sizes. Really I don't know if it is legal or not. Like you answer me with questions...
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04-07-2004, 09:32 PM
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I can read in many websites "you can download it and keep in your pc for 24 hs...." or "all material in here is for scientis reasons..."
That is incorrect, and it's a fallacy.
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I don't understand why somebody can't download a copy of your own DVD. Download is for free. If i don't know how to make DVD copies, i should pay for this ones.
It's illegal, because it's the law
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And "In Spain it's illegal to record a CD you own on a tape and never listen to the original CD ?" CD copied to a tape is not directly modified by owner in the sense that I think you understand. Scripting, enhaces video or makes smaller file sizes. Really I don't know if it is legal or not. Like you answer me with questions...
That's a gray area.
Under the "Fair Use" law, you can make a copy for personal backup purposes.
But then, the DMCA circumvents (or tries to!) the Fair Use law
But then, if you want to copy your DVD, which the DMCA says it's illegal because you're decrypting the DVD, then you can copy your DVD from the S-Video connector because that's Analog, and the DMCA doesn't apply.
But then they'll say that you broke Macrovision protection ( which is analog ), but if you use a Time Base Corrector to stabilize the video, you filter it.
So LEGALLY, you CAN copy a DVD this way, and NOBODY can say anything about it, because DMCA rules on DIGITAL content, and what you have on your S-Video cable, is analog. So, there's a little loophole, which anyone can use, and say that they copied their DVD this way, and they don't have to say that it was ripped

-kwag
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04-08-2004, 09:20 AM
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So LEGALLY, you CAN copy a DVD this way, and NOBODY can say anything about it, because DMCA rules on DIGITAL content, and what you have on your S-Video cable, is analog. So, there's a little loophole, which anyone can use, and say that they copied their DVD this way, and they don't have to say that it was ripped

-kwag
Is for this reason that capturing from tv signal is not illegal. Or it is illegall too?
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