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06-07-2005, 05:24 AM
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May I remember to anyone that DVDShrink can be used as a ripper ?
Even if some app do not like it (DVD-RB for instance).

Note: It's funny to see companies hunting free softwares and letting Nero Recode to be SOLD widely.
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May I remember to anyone that DVDShrink can be used as a ripper ?
Even if some app do not like it (DVD-RB for instance).

Note: It's funny to see companies hunting free softwares and letting Nero Recode to be SOLD widely.
Hi Phil,

Doesn't Shrink require that you have DVD Decrypter installed? The reason I ask I remember when first installing Shrink it said you must configure DVD Decrypter to select all files before using Shrink.
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06-07-2005, 05:40 AM
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I think that our best alternative right now is CladDVD.NET
http://www.clonead.co.uk/
Direct software kink: http://www.clonead.pwp.blueyonder.co...T%20v3.5.6.zip
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Bahh ,
It may be very good but now I remember why I don't use it: it needs .NET to run .
I hate .NET/JAVA/etc...I hate it I hate it I hate it .
Just kidding.
But to be honest I not a fan of .NET.
Just why don't "they" code under good old c++ anymore?
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06-07-2005, 05:43 AM
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I'll tell you: I never EVER liked Sony products.
But from now on, even if I like a Sony product, I'm sure I won't buy it!
Cheers mates
I agree Sony SAPs and DVD Burners are a complete pile of rubbish imo. I won't touch anything with the words Sony on it and that itcludes it's Playstation consoles.

Years ago I was on a college course to repair TV/VCR's and our tutor even said way back then not to buy Sony VCR's as they give out plenty of problems, that has always stuck in my mind.

Yes losing MS was another blow to this community also it was a fantastic piece of software.
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06-07-2005, 06:37 AM
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Doesn't Shrink require that you have DVD Decrypter installed? The reason I ask I remember when first installing Shrink it said you must configure DVD Decrypter to select all files before using Shrink.
For sure not. This is to inform you that if you use DVDShrink to read outputs from DVDDecryptern then this one must be set to "File" mode and not "Ifo mode". Or it's a very old message coming from first releases of Shrink that did not include the decrypter part.
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06-07-2005, 07:53 AM
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May I remember to anyone that DVDShrink can be used as a ripper ?
Until you try to rip one of the newest "Columbia Pictures" DVDs, and you'll see how sorry it fails miserably
The latest version of DVDDecrypter took care of that issue.

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06-07-2005, 07:54 AM
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I hate .NET/JAVA/etc...I hate it I hate it I hate it .
So do I
And I'm not kidding

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06-07-2005, 08:21 AM
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May I remember to anyone that DVDShrink can be used as a ripper ?
Until you try to rip one of the newest "Columbia Pictures" DVDs, and you'll see how sorry it fails miserably
The latest version of DVDDecrypter took care of that issue.
I was sure someone will tell that I did not tell that DVDShrink can replace DVDDecrypter
Note: DVD4Free should also rip such discs.
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06-07-2005, 09:40 AM
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Note: DVD4Free should also rip such discs.
Are you sure of that
Because those DVDs can't be ripped with any ripper, except DVDDecrypter
I tried a couple of the "Columbia" DVSs with CladDVD and other rippers, and the only one successful was the latest DVDDecrypter.

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06-08-2005, 03:39 PM
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I hate using .NET as well and im also disappointed that Clad uses this framework.

@Kwag & Phil


Thanks for the info on Shrink btw.

Decrypter was king though.
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06-08-2005, 04:27 PM
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Note: DVD4Free should also rip such discs.
Are you sure of that
I never tried, I just read that somewhere on the net.
Everything that is on the Internet is true, isn't it ?
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06-08-2005, 07:27 PM
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I never tried, I just read that somewhere on the net.
Everything that is on the Internet is true, isn't it ?
Well, some times
I just tried DVD43, and it worked like charm
I just opened the files on a DVD, dragged a couple of VOBs to my hard drive, and then I played them with VLC

-kwag
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06-08-2005, 08:23 PM
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So it is true after all Everything they say on the internet is really true
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I thought I'd copy here a couple of posts I made on this topic over on the DIKO forums. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of how the legality issue works...

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Hey guys

Am I perhaps missing a vital point here?

Surely DVDDecrypter is just a piece of software written by a guy who happens to live in the UK. He doesn't charge for the use of the software, therefore it remains just a toy of his. The only issue I can see is that it is being hosted on a UK domain/server and UK law doesn't like what he's offering? Can he not get someone to host it outside the UK if (for example) its still permissable in France (according to Dialhot)?

The actual usage of the software is the same worldwide. But if its not allowed to be hosted in the UK, can he not just host it on a foreign site?

Sorry if I'm missing something here.
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Which copyright law would he be in breach of exactly? Some UK law? That wouldn't matter to anyone hosting the software in a country other than the UK.

Is there any component of his software which incorporates some other copyrighted software? If so, then surely DVD Decrypter was already in breach of these laws. If not, then its all his own code and noone can touch him.

Even though its not open-source, I'm sure that (considering the need and demand for this kind of software) someone will find a way to reverse engineer the software so that it doesn't offend any external companies. They are only complaining anyway cos it enables DVD's to be copied when they don't want that.
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06-09-2005, 05:23 AM
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Which copyright law would he be in breach of exactly?
The encrypting model used on the DVD is registered worldwide. Using a tool to crack it break the laws in any place on Earth.

That's the basis of the trials launched in France : companies are been sued to put something on their disc that puts people in the necessity to break the law (to crack the code) in order to access to the rights granted to them by an other law (the "private copy"'s law)
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06-09-2005, 06:31 AM
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That's the basis of the trials launched in France : companies are been sued to put something on their disc that puts people in the necessity to break the law (to crack the code) in order to access to the rights granted to them by an other law (the "private copy"'s law)
Now, that's the spirit
Let me just say that this paragraph is extremely interesting and that people should fight for their rights.
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06-09-2005, 07:06 AM
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I hate using .NET as well ...
Of topic:
Tell me about it
At work, we're currently re-writing a huge .NET application in Python
We're trying to make the business a "Microsoft Free Environment"

-kwag
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06-09-2005, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
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I hate using .NET as well ...
Of topic:
Tell me about it
At work, we're currently re-writing a huge .NET application in Python
We're trying to make the business a "Microsoft Free Environment"

-kwag
[OT]
Amen to that, Python rules! I don't like the way MS has made it so you need to install a seperate framework to get your apps working I call that bad or lazy programming, that is why I preferred Delphi (before Python came out of course) you could make an app without the necessity to force users to install a seperate framework to get it going.

I wish you guys luck in removing the unnecessary framework.
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06-30-2005, 07:00 AM
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@All,

Has anyone tried DVDFab

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/DVDFab.htm

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06-30-2005, 08:04 AM
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Did not have to test it yet but :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....ghlight=dvdfab
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