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11-16-2002, 05:38 PM
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found this on a message board...

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did you hear apex is actually making kvcd a standard? there are even firmware patches for older players..

http://news.apexdigital.com/news?=article1106200203
the link of course does not work... just wanted to know the validity of this statement


the forum i saw this on was...
http://www.vidomi.com/viewtopic.php?topic=2951&forum=6
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Yes, I had seen that article, just before the link went dead.
I guess that was Apex's last attempt to find an alternate "License Free" format, just before they dumped all VCD support on their models. That's because KVCD still falls in the VCD specification bracket ( file system, MODE-2, etc ). Are you aware that APEX doesn't manufacture VCD or support it, on any of their players since April 15 of this year? They didn't want to pay royalties to Philips, so they dumped VCD support.

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11-16-2002, 05:54 PM
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yea.. i knew they stopped.. luckily i have an older one

must feel nice to know that a company like APEX was looking into your templates tho..

i guess thats something more to throw in the face of the nay-sayers of KVCD..
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11-16-2002, 06:08 PM
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i guess thats something more to throw in the face of the nay-sayers of KVCD..


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11-17-2002, 01:22 AM
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kwag...i have an idea. this may be a little too much of an adventure for you to embark upon but after reading these posts it made me wonder. Since APEX has already looked into adding KVCD support to players (even though they have canceled that idea) what would happen if you dropped all vcd specifications so that APEX then in effect wouldnt have to pay royalties. you could incorporate this into the new encoder and as a result develop a new video standard. the only drawback would be widespread acceptance and support on standalone players but having it be mpeg 1 or even mpeg 2 it wouldnt be that farfetched for manufacturers to add support. of cource you might want to get ahold of someone at a company like apex first so that you are not wasting any of your precious time to have nobody accept the standard but if this was taken this far it could be great. it would in effect be like putting divx on standalone players. just a little something for you to think about.

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11-17-2002, 01:44 AM
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kwag...i have an idea. this may be a little too much of an adventure for you to embark upon but after reading these posts it made me wonder. Since APEX has already looked into adding KVCD support to players (even though they have canceled that idea) what would happen if you dropped all vcd specifications so that APEX then in effect wouldnt have to pay royalties. you could incorporate this into the new encoder and as a result develop a new video standard. the only drawback would be widespread acceptance and support on standalone players but having it be mpeg 1 or even mpeg 2 it wouldnt be that farfetched for manufacturers to add support. of cource you might want to get ahold of someone at a company like apex first so that you are not wasting any of your precious time to have nobody accept the standard but if this was taken this far it could be great. it would in effect be like putting divx on standalone players. just a little something for you to think about.

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Actually, they could take the KVCD parameters, and encode as MPEG-2. They do support SVCD, so they could just expand their mpeg firmware to support XSVCD ( KVCD falls in that category ) and that would be it. Then they could play +60 minutes on a CD-R. Not 40 minutes like in a standard SVCD. Actually, with the SKVCD template (352x480), you can get around 90 minutes in a CD-R, and if you add filters such as Blockbuster, it will look pretty muck like a SVCD, but with a much longer play time per media. And if they really wanted to go cheap, and bypass VCD licensing, then they could just play MPEG-1 file on the CD-R. Just like the new DVD players that are starting to support MPEG-4. You just burn the file to the CD-R as a data CD. Not as a VideoCD. That way, there are no VCD royalties to pay.

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11-17-2002, 02:47 PM
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ah i see. so it really isnt as topugh as i imagined
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