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Jellygoose

04-27-2003 03:03 PM

How to create Forced Subtitles in VobSub?

Hi all...

I'm currently trying to get my forced Subs in the movie "The Sum Of all Fears" to work. This is giving me a hard time, and I just wanna make sure I do everything correctly. I'm using VobSub.

I open VobSub Configure, and load the .ifo file. Now VobSub Configure shows me a bunch of Subtitle streams, and I chose one of the 6(!!) german streams, since I want those forced Subs in german. The program creates a .sub and a .idx file, which takes about 5 minutes.

After that I open the .sub file with VobSub Configure and try to configure it. There again I can choose between a lot of different languages, again 4 lines that say "German"... (???) I press ok, and add the following line to the very end of my avs script:")

Code:

VobSub("E:\Der Anschlag\Neuer Ordner\

this is the directory with the .idx and the .sub files in it.
When I preview in VirtualDub, the Subs don't appear at all... I searched different guides, but those are pretty hard to understand! I'd apreciate any help! :wink:

Wolfi

04-27-2003 03:46 PM

Hi Jellygoose! Maybe I'm wrong but when I add subs to my avs. script I'm using this line :arrow:

TextSub("C:\Scripts\Reign Of Fire\dmt-rof_new.srt")

This is the name of my subtitle file :arrow: dmt-rof_new. And if you don't add .srt in the end of the subtitle it won't be shown in ether VDub or WMP. So maybe you forgot to add, in your case .sub in the end of your subtitle :? Just a guise :oops:

//Wolfi

Thor263

04-27-2003 08:20 PM

Did you edit the .idx file to have forced subs ON instead of forced subs OFF?

Here is a clip from the .idx file showing what I mean:

Code:

...

# For correcting non-progressive desync. (in millisecs or hh:mm:ss:ms)

# Note: Not effective in DirectVobSub, use "delay: ... " instead.

time offset: 0



# ON: displays only forced subtitles, OFF: shows everything

forced subs: ON



...

Otherwise, it sounds like you are doing everything else correctly...

CheronAph

04-28-2003 01:01 AM

I think he has tried approach described here, http://www.afterdawn.com/articles/ar...ivx_to_vcd.cfm
With textsub it´s a lot easier though, you should try that!

Jellygoose

04-28-2003 06:08 AM

Ok, I forgot to mention, yes I did change that setting to "On"...

I'm not quite sure if my VobSub.dll has to be another version maybe... where did you get it from Thor263? Still Subs are not displaying... :(

I'll give TextSub a chance... will it work fine with forced subtitles, so that those subtitles are only displayed when they are supposed to be displayed? any guides to do this with TextSub? thanks

Oh yes, and can anyone with experience in VobSub explain this:
How come when I choose a subtitle set out of the .ifo file, and the program creates me a .sub and a .idx file, and when I open that .sub file again in VobSub Configure, I again can choose between several different languages?? does that make any difference?

Adder

04-28-2003 07:44 AM

Hi jellygoose

In Virtualdub have you added the vobsub 2.23 plugin to the filters :?

You should see subs then :)

Later

Abond

04-28-2003 09:06 AM

Hi, Jellygoose
In your first post you said you choose a substream. How did you choose?
In my case, I mark in the right window every subtitle stream which I DON'T want, click the arrow pointed to the left to remove them, leaving in the right window only the streams I want to rip. Then OK - ready. It seems in your case VobSub rip all the streams. You can see that easy looking for the .sub file size. Usually one stream is 4-7 MB. If it is more than 10 you have more subtitle streams for sure. Greetings.

Wolfi

04-28-2003 10:06 AM

This gudie will work for textsub :arrow:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/87065.php#4 :wink:

//Wolfi

Jellygoose

04-28-2003 10:33 AM

First of all, thanks for all your help guys... I really apreciate it... :wink:

ok, you were right Abond, I did rip all subtitles... my .sub was about 45 mb... :wink: I understand now... :lol: thanks for the tip but do you see any problem in ripping all of the subs, and choose which one you want to use afterwards?
The VobSub filter is already loaded in VirtualDub, so this will not be the problem... I still think I'm doing something wrong in my avisynth script. I found a vobsub.dll on my system, and loaded it into avisynth, because without this plugin loaded, avisynth would not recognise the VobSub line. however, I still wonder if I'm doing this right...
Isn't avisynth 2.08 supposed to have the VobSub filter implemented?

Jellygoose

04-28-2003 10:41 AM

Ok, now I'm positive I'm doing something wrong here... :wink:
I started SubResync, and checked all subtitle streams I ripped, and I found the one I needed... :D
however the subs still don't display... :x So how do ya'll add that VobSub line to your Avisynth script? at the very end right?
well what .dll file do you load for that?

Kane	04-28-2003 10:48 AM

i just encoded a movie with forced subs

this is the script, i used

Code:

#=====================================================#

# -= AviSynth script by MovieStacker v2.0.0 (beta) =- #

#=====================================================#



LoadPlugin("E:\Appz\MovieStacker\Filters\MPEG2Dec.dll")

LoadPlugin("E:\Appz\MovieStacker\Filters\GripFit_preview.dll")

LoadPlugin("E:\Appz\MovieStacker\Filters\UnFilter.dll")

LoadPlugin("E:\Appz\MovieStacker\Filters\LegalClip.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\Windows\System32\VobSub.dll")



Mpeg2Source("E:\RIP\Roter Oktober.d2v")

LegalClip()

GripCrop(352, 576)

VobSub("E:\RIP\VTS_01_0")

GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")

UnFilter(50, 50)

TemporalSmoother(1, 2)

MergeChroma(blur(1.58))

MergeLuma(blur(0.3))

GripBorders()

LegalClip()

just set the path to the vts_o1_0.sub but leave out the ending

Jellygoose

04-28-2003 11:15 AM

Thanks Kane, now it's working!! :D :D
thanks everyone else who helped too!!