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gamemaniaco 09-24-2019 04:51 AM

Acid vapor and media conservation?
 
If I handle DVD-R and MDisc DVD media inside a room and out of the room someone makes use of muriatic acid this muriatic acid will evaporate it will change the ambient air and this muriatic acid will deposit in these media and penetrate inside these media and goes to the damaging internal reflective metal layer?

BarryTheCrab 09-24-2019 09:05 AM

Must...resist...no...don’t...

lordsmurf 09-25-2019 02:24 AM

I had to look this up, no idea what it was. :book:

... and it's hydrochloric acid. :eek:

So if you have that in the air, you have bigger problems. The media will outlast you. You may as well ask about media longevity if the atmosphere disappears, or if the planet is hit by an asteroid. You won't be around to care.

As a Brit would say: "Are you taking the piss?"

gamemaniaco 09-25-2019 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf (Post 64155)
I had to look this up, no idea what it was. :book:

... and it's hydrochloric acid. :eek:

So if you have that in the air, you have bigger problems. The media will outlast you. You may as well ask about media longevity if the atmosphere disappears, or if the planet is hit by an asteroid. You won't be around to care.

As a Brit would say: "Are you taking the piss?"


Yes is the muriatic hydrochloric acid it evaporates when used and penetrates into the dvd-r and mdisc dvd disc eating the reflective metal layer and the dye?

dpalomaki 09-28-2019 08:14 AM

muriatic, aka: hydrochloric, acid in the air is generally not good for anything other than cleaning/preparing surfaces such as concrete for painting. How bad it is depends on the concentration (e.g., PPM) and what else might be in the air. There is no way we can predict the effect on usable life of media beyond that it will shortening it.

gamemaniaco 09-28-2019 08:18 AM

Evaporation of hydrochloric acid and 70% trichloroacetic acid modifies the ambient air and penetrates into the CD and DVD and MDisc DVD layers reducing the life of the metal layers? Is this statement correct?

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In MDisc DVD or DVD disc the metal layers are exposed and contact to the outside air and external environment in contact with any acid vapor or impurity?? Evaporation of hydrochloric acid and 70% trichloroacetic acid vapor this acids and impurities enter the disc through polycarbonate and glue?

BarryTheCrab 09-30-2019 06:47 PM

I suggest not storing your discs in any environment that includes periodic spills of caustic liquids or gases.
Add to this list of bad storage locations with a high risk of potential damage:
  1. Center lane of the Autobahn
  2. Nuclear reactor containment vessels
  3. Blast furnaces
  4. Lava flows
  5. Anywhere near Hillary Clinton
I refer to an earlier post suggesting launching your discs into geostationary orbit.

ELinder 10-01-2019 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryTheCrab (Post 64296)
I refer to an earlier post suggesting launching your discs into geostationary orbit.

I'm not sure that would work either, what with having to withstand the radiation from the Van Allen Belt.

gamemaniaco 10-03-2019 05:22 AM

In MDisc DVD or DVD disc the metal layers are exposed and contact to the outside air and external environment in contact with any acid vapor or impurity?? Evaporation of hydrochloric acid and 70% trichloroacetic acid vapor this acids and impurities enter the disc through polycarbonate and glue?

BarryTheCrab 10-05-2019 02:38 PM

Somebody owes me a beer...

lingyi 10-05-2019 11:52 PM

To you! :beer::beer:
And another for posting on gamey's (err...powatrin's) thread at videohelp! :beer::beer:
Drunken crab is delicious!

Oh wait...that sounds a little creepy! :unsure:

dpalomaki 10-07-2019 08:01 AM

Quote:

Evaporation of hydrochloric acid and 70% trichloroacetic acid vapor this acids and impurities enter the disc through polycarbonate and glue?

Read more: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/media/10034-acid-vapor-media.html#ixzz61fm0DdFE
The question is moot because those vapors will do you in too, quicker than the discs! :eek:

gamemaniaco 11-02-2019 07:45 AM

You didn't answer my doubt, any muriatic acid vapor present in the house air can get inside the dvd disc and mdisc dvd disc and corrode the reflective metal layer and the metal data layer?

ELinder 11-02-2019 08:36 AM

Yes, we did answer your doubts. You would be dead before your disks would be damaged.

BarryTheCrab 11-02-2019 08:42 AM

I'm beginning to think there may be more than one type of acid on this trip.

ELinder 11-02-2019 12:55 PM

.....LOL....

BarryTheCrab 11-02-2019 03:36 PM

Thank you, I’ll be here all week, or until I get banned. Try the veal.

gamemaniaco 11-02-2019 04:26 PM

In my home use of muriatic acid generates evaporation but does not affect my health, I have no cough and no symptoms so I asked about the media dvd and mdisc dvd why they are glued and between the glue this steam penetrates the inside of these discs corroding the layer of metal?

noisywan 11-13-2019 08:49 AM

Yes, in long-term exposure, the acid vapor will damage your DVDs only if they contain very important and unique data that can't be recreated or has no other copy.
The acid vapor will do no harm on downloaded porn.
Buy SOC-DVDs and you'll be fine.
Storage for Obsessive Compulsive people
Just kidding.
Read this https://www.verbatim.com.au/media/br...D_Handling.pdf
According to DON'Ts listed here, you can safely expose your Verbatim DVDs to muriatic acid vapor. Sue them if you lose data.

lordsmurf 11-15-2019 01:40 AM

I don't see that listed on that PDF. :question:

But more importantly, wasn't it a vat of muriatic acid that Jack Napier fell into? Ol' Bruce didn't realize he was dancing with the devil in the pale moon light. Cheeky fellow, that Joker. I wonder if he had any CDs in his pocket, then we could really test this theory!


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