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I'm looking for some excellent, or best-of-the-best SVHS blanks that aren't Fuji "Master" "Double-coated". I didn't research before I bought them, thankfully, it was just two.

Oh, and do I need to worry about tape-length? I hear that longer blanks are made of a thinner tape, and are more prone to tearing.

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Fuji tapes were actually pretty lousy. The VHS was terrible, and the S-VHS was mediocre. The colors were off, and the grain was crud.

Only Maxell S-VHS was worse, as it was very "eat-friendly", and would often be feathered in decks. It has some sort of construction issue. The tape was just designed badly. Furthermore, the actual recording was smeary. The Maxell VHS tapes, by contrast, were excellent. Gold and HiFi VHS were preferred.

Sony S-VHS was excellent. Color not as good as TDK, but grain held tight.

TDK was best -- both VHS and S-VHS. I only have 3-4 of these left myself. The cost about $6 each back in the late 90s, when the tapes were being clearance out by higher-end electronics stores. They had been $10-15 each beforehand.

JVC S-VHS was also best, but harder to find. JVC VHS was easy to locate.

Anything over T-130 was thin tape, yes. But it was a VHS speed. I never saw any S-VHS tapes beyond T-120. VHS T-160 was problematic, and T-200 (mostly Memores VHS) was terrible.

Sometimes I miss tapes.

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08-25-2015, 04:29 PM
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Thanks for your response!

Can you point me to TDK's best SVHS-C, and best SVHS-normal tape? I very seldom record anything over five to ten minutes, so I don't really need all that extra tape. However, it would be nice to know both sizes, in case I end up needing it. I already have a VHS-C adapter.

Oh, that reminds me. Will A VHS-C adapter allow a SVHS deck to play those tapes? Or, am I going to need an SVHS-C to SVHS adapter?
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I was referring to S-VHS. If you want S-VHS-C, then JVC is your only choice. The only compact S-VHS cameras that I ever saw were from JVC in the late 90s, and they produced the media to go with it. S-VHS-C tapes were not easy to come by even then. You have zero chance of finding them now, aside from eBay.

I see some tapes listed there now, but I'd be wary of storage conditions. And then I wonder if any of those were ever for sale in the USA, and were just "gray market" imports for media sold in Japan or Europe. In fact, most of the tapes on auctions are non-USA to begin with.

Why on earth would you want to record this format? All "C" formats of VHS were awful.

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Oh, I was under the impression that more than one company made S-VHS-C. Well, nix that, then.

Is this the kind of tape that I'm looking for?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NOS-4-TD...item2ee51c4a32
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It appears that more than 1 company did make the compact S-VHS-C tapes, but only JVC was available in North America (USA/Canada). Everything else was European or Japanese. I'm not 100% certain on this, but that's what I remember from the 90s.

Those TDK tapes would be excellent full-sized (non-compact) S-VHS tapes, assuming they've been stored properly. If they're been stored in an attic, garage or basement, then forget about it.

The price looks close to what it was 10-15 years ago, which I find amusing. A quality DVD blank is about 20 cents, but a quality tape is still $5+. Most people would have a fit if a blank disc cost $5 each! And the DVD blank can store more video, at higher resolution quality, with no chroma noise, with only the colorspace reduced from 4:2:2 equiv to MPEG 4:2:0. Go figure. Even DV shooting is better.

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The tapes you are looking for are those TDK XP Super Pro. They were also available in "C" format too. I have a few in ST-120 length purchased new when I got my JVC deck. Can't say I record much to analog video formats these days though.

Also, you can use DVHS blanks to record SVHS video (the sense hole for SVHS tapes is present on all DVHS tapes). They were available from JVC, Mitsubishi (JVC rebrand), Maxell, and Panasonic. One bonus is that they typically came in longer tape lengths. DF-300 was the most common length which is equivalent to a ST-150.
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DF-300 was the most common length
Yes, DF-300 are here most tapes.
But there is also DF-420 tapes.
Have a few more original packed in camp


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Wikipedia claims that DF-480 tapes were available, although I have never seen them. I would be hesitant in using them in a SVHS deck though as they may be rough on the thinner tape. One thing to keep in mind about SVHS tape prices, there is still demand for them for use with the Alesis ADAT multi track digital audio recorders.
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Wikipedia claims that DF-480 tapes were available, although I have never seen them
I also have not seen any.
300 I need here.
420 are still packed original.

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One thing to keep in mind about SVHS tape prices, there is still demand for them for use with the Alesis ADAT multi track digital audio recorders.
Bands I have until early 2015 ordered here see Fig.
Broadcast 120 minutes

Alesis ADAT I have no device, only the predecessor
Sony PCM 501 ES
Output in 44.1 KHz


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08-27-2015, 05:37 PM
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Yeah, these FUJI Masters are awful.

There's a constant crackling effect, I believe that's caused by tracking errors? Audio dropouts are very frequent, too.

I haven't been able to do any video recording, as the tape doesn't want to playback the video I record, I just get a buzzing sound.
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The tapes themselves rarely cause tracking errors, even when a tape is crap. The recording unit is at fault.
And yes, you're describing an alignment issues ("tracking" issue).

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I got around to uploading a video from the Panasonic. Are those video dropouts the video becoming darker?

There's some noticeable compression, I neglected to adjust the bitrate for maximum quality, and instead, I exported with "smallest file-size settings". The actual tape looks much better resolution-wise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hChZ...ature=youtu.be
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Why do you need tapes to play older tapes? I'm confused on what is going on here.
Is that a Panasonic S-VHS VCR? If so, it may have bad caps.

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I don't understand the first part of your question.

Yes, it's a Panasonic AG-7400.

The audio crackling went away, I think it was just all the cables the VCR had plugged into it.
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