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01-03-2017, 10:09 AM
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I tested jitter, PIE, PIF on my 4 dvd-r discs 16x verbatim azo id: mcc 03rg20 burned at 6x with imgburn and lite-on ihas122-14 fu and I wanted to know if all these disks will have a useful life expectancy and legibility for 15-30 years or not Under these storage conditions stored inside dvd case black, case inside box temperature and humidity: morning 31șC, afternoon 32șC-36șC, night 32șC humidity 40-56 % In months of rain the temperature is a little lower 28 ° C, 29 ° C and high humidity

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I can't read the screenshots.

Do this:
Step1: Install and use the freeware Greenshot.
Step2: Press ALT+PRTSCRN to capture only the active window, not the whole desktop.

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01-03-2017, 10:24 AM
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I already stored the disks, very difficult to do the whole procedure again
Can not you see anything?

Is it possible to enlarge these images without doing it all again?
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Then open your big images in something like Photoshop, crop to just the program window, save as, and re-post.

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01-03-2017, 10:32 AM
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I saved them in Paint of Windows 10 in jpeg, when I open them in paint they get big

click in the images

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you see the photos? Click on them and answer me the question that I posted above
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01-05-2017, 01:40 PM
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We're at an impasse. You're not attaching images I can read.

Do what I said -- open images locally, crop out crap, re-save, re-attach -- or don't bother asking for help.

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01-05-2017, 05:06 PM
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Please help me post these images, how do I edit them with the paint? I can expand them on the pc but I can not send them to you
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01-05-2017, 05:25 PM
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Here are the photos I cut


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I can read those.

I want to run some tests of my own, and I'll get back to you next week. Still busy now.

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01-06-2017, 03:58 AM
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you saw the photos?

1 I wanted to know the useful life expectancy of these disks according to the photos of the tests jitter, PIE, PIF, POF and in my storage conditions stored inside dvd case black, case inside box temperature and humidity: morning 31șC, afternoon 32șC- 36 ° C, night 32 ° C humidity 40-56% In the morning, the temperature is very low.

Before you gave an expectation of 15-30 years in my conditions but for good values jitter, PIE, PIF, POF different from my tests that jitter, PIE, PIF, POF are high

2 I'm going to buy some Verbatim MDisc, what speed of burning for the MDisc is ideal for good quality recording? 4x is the maximum burning speed of mdisc
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01-06-2017, 08:41 AM
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I usually burn discs at one step below max listed under the assumption that the max published speed may be driven in part by marketing hype that pushes the envelope. The best speed will depend on the media, software, and burner combination. So waste some discs and run tests using the same burner and content (do maybe three at each speed of interest and average the results - would apply to that batch of discs) to see which speed gives you the best results. (Anyone else's results could well be different due to using different batches, burners, software, etc..)

Note that MDiscs require a MDisc-rated burner (but maybe that was covered elsewhere).
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1 did you see the pictures of my tests? All these disks will have a useful life expectancy and legibility for 15-30 years or so Under these storage conditions stored inside dvd case black, case inside box temperature and humidity: morning 31șC, afternoon 32șC-36șC, night 32șC humidity 40-56% In the morning it will be mostly cloudy with a high of 28 ° C.

2 mdisc can be burned in 2x and 4x but I'm in doubt about which speed to choose to get better burning and little stress on the disc because of laser heat
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I have nothing more to suggest beyond my post above.
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01-14-2017, 06:36 PM
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did you see the pictures of my tests? All these disks will have a useful life expectancy and legibility for 15-30 years or so Under these storage conditions stored inside dvd case black, case inside box temperature and humidity: morning 31șC, afternoon 32șC-36șC, night 32șC humidity 40-56% In the morning it will be mostly cloudy with a high of 28 ° C.
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