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09-20-2019, 02:06 PM
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I'm looking for some advice on capturing 8mm film.
My current method is as follows:
Tobin telecine projector --> Pinnacle 710 USB via S-Video --> Pinnacle Studio (Ver. 12) --> DVD

I'm using Windows 10 64 bit and have no card slots available so USB is my only option.
I've been capturing to MPEG4 in Studio 12 and then doing any needed editing before burning the DVD.

I'm looking to improve the quality of the final project. The recommended method I've been reading about on this forum is to capture the film into AVI format using VirtualDub. But I still have some questions...

1) Is the Pinnacle 710 a good option or should I be looking at another USB capture device?
2) Once the film is captured can I use VirtualDub to do the editing and burn DVDs? My editing usually involves adding captions, fading in and out between scenes, adding some music, etc. I like using the Pinnacle software because I can do the capturing, editing and disk or file creation all within the same program but I keep reading that it isn't the best option quality wise. So if I capture to AVI, what should I be using for the editing and output to DVD or Flash Drive?

My concern is that if I start transferring video for others (for money!!), I'd like to get the best results. I'm looking for examples of what others are using and options and advice on what a quality hardware/software setup would look like compared to what I'm using now.

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09-20-2019, 04:36 PM
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If you want the best results, you will need to scan the film frame by frame, not telecine it. To hide scratches without spending a lot of time doing it digitally, you'll want a wetgate process or a diffuse light source. And scan at 2K or better, non-lossy, with overscan into the sprockets to give more options for framing, and be sure you can capture the audio as well.

If I were to do it for the money, I might consider the MovieStuff RetroScan machine as a "budget" option. Other, vastly more expensive options include Rank Cintel, LaserGraphics ScanStation and so on. Otherwise check the "frame by frame" link above for more budget-friendly options.

With good equipment and software, you can expect results like this from 8mm (click for full size):

The above was using Super-8 Ektachrome 100D film. The forum topic where I found that image is here.
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09-20-2019, 05:20 PM
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Thanks traal. I should have mentioned that the Tobin system is a frame by frame capture system. It will let me overscan and uses LED backlighting. I get great results depending on the quality of the film itself. No sound capabilities but haven't needed it so far. Will explore that more in the future.
With this setup I can get quality results as far as getting the film captured. I'm more interested in the software options.
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