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Originally Posted by WhatACuck
(Post 61612)
When it comes to having a good workflow, I feel the only good equipment is starting to vanish and become extinct.
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Nah. It still exists out there. Less supply, more demand, but it is out there.
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My question is, what are people going to do about the lack of equipment?
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If demand outstrips supply, new devices will surface. I've been contacted about this from private parties, and we've had interesting chats, but it's largely deemed unsound right now. For now.
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Originally Posted by latreche34
(Post 61614)
The tapes are aging and the capture devices are getting crappier, It only going to get worse. Good PC capture devices require legacy OS's and are hard to find, Grab an old professional capture device, there is always a way to hook them up with modern computers and newer operating systems including Mac.
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Again, not really.
Legacy computer hardware is not difficult to locate, legacy OS are equally easy to locate (especially via unofficial means). And we have a lot of good capture cards options in the sub-$100 rage. I remember when a good capture card was $1k, then $300, then $200, and finally $100 may years later.
Newer computers are not for legacy tasks like video capturing. I worked some IT in the 90s, and we had 80s legacy that had to be maintained. In fact, many cable companies still rely on IT from the 00s, 90s, even the 80s. The consumer idea of "outdated" really is not in line with reality. Capturing needs to be viewed as a professional or more serious task, not games, email, Facebook, Word docs and spreadsheets (with is like 99% of computer use by home users).
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Originally Posted by WhatACuck
(Post 61615)
Well, I'm just glad that more and more people aren't really wanting those old OS's, seeing as how they're considered obsolete.
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The OS are only considered obsolete in some contexts. For example, it's insane to connect a Windows XP system to the internet. But in contrast, good luck trying capture video with a Win10 box, it will fight you nonstop.
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Originally Posted by sevarre
(Post 61616)
Would be cool if some electrical engineer type could come up with a design for TBC-100/1000 clone or something. I (probably naively) think it could be done and there are clearly people who would get a lot of use out of a "new" external TBC.
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It can be done, I know people that want to do it, but financial feasibility is the main issue. I've done a lot of TBC research over the years, and have offered to work with these folks if/when the time comes.
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Originally Posted by traal
(Post 61620)
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Perhaps. Perhaps not. Still early.
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Originally Posted by latreche34
(Post 61621)
80% of the problems are related to the quality of the VCR itself to begin with, Most tapes don't require external TBC and the ones that do most of the time because of a crappy capture device. So the real question is it would be cool if some engineer could come up with a new VCR, But that's not possible.
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Even the idea of a "VCR" is quaint, since the decks have at least 50% useless features/components. What's needed purely for quality video could be built, but the costs would exceed the existing S-VHS VCR options, and with only nominal improvements. I think the only way it would happen is if for the aforementioned RF signal acquisition.
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Originally Posted by sevarre
(Post 61622)
TRUE, now THAT would be interesting. Maybe it could be some EE's PhD/MSci. project haha. When you say not possible, is it actually impossible because of stuff like trade secrets (i.e. we might not know exactly how the process works, so we can't recreate it exactly) or is it just such a gargantuan task that it is for all practical purposes impossible?
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As time marches on, and schematics get buried in archives of companies that no longer care about the "old" ("outdated", legacy) devices, it's not impossible (uncommon, even?) to acquire NDA documents without signing or agreeing to the NDA. And to be honest, the NDA is silly once you see the schematics and docs, as there's really nothing "secret" that isn't already known, or cannot be seen via reverse engineering the hardware. Even by me, and I'm far from from being an EE (although that is actually what I wanted to pursue as a kid).
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Originally Posted by latreche34
(Post 61628)
Well it is not impossible, But factories that use to make VCR parts have been dismantled, Funai was the last manufacturer to stop production 3 years ago, Not only there is no financial gain of resurrecting such an old technology but you will have to make the machines that produce parts first, You can't just 3D print a VCR.
Even the RF method of extracting video still requires a VCR and possibly a good VCR with a precision tape transport and stable capstan and head motors, It doesn't have to be S-VHS though.
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That's exactly it: tooling, molds, parts.