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Haven't done this before, not sure if its automatic or if it will fall off when I make DVDs or Blu-Rays
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Fall off?

Just encode to MPEG as BFF (DV sources) or TFF (everything else), author the BD/DVD without re-encoding, and it will be fine.

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Fall off?

Just encode to MPEG as BFF (DV sources) or TFF (everything else), author the BD/DVD without re-encoding, and it will be fine.
Thanks, it should be all TFF then. I didn't really know if certain conversions made reading interlaced lines impossible for the playback hardware.
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Good encoders should let you specify interlaced vs progressive encoding. What are you using to encode?

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I haven't decided yet. I prefer not to deinterlace so I am rummaging the forums to find a good encoder to do this.
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- Avidemux = free but buggy
- TMPGEnc Plus 2.5 = cheap ($37) but slower to encode
- MainConcept Reference (now TotalCode Studio) = expensive ($500+) but best in the industry.

There's not a lot of choices for MPEG encoders. I use them all, dependig on the computer and the task.

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- Avidemux = free but buggy
- TMPGEnc Plus 2.5 = cheap ($37) but slower to encode
- MainConcept Reference (now TotalCode Studio) = expensive ($500+) but best in the industry.

There's not a lot of choices for MPEG encoders. I use them all, dependig on the computer and the task.
Are these all for VirtualDub or do I need Adobe to use them?
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They're standalone programs.
Adobe Premiere comes with the MainConcept SDK encoder (the "Adobe Media Encoder")
VirtualDub only exports AVI.

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They're standalone programs.
Adobe Premiere comes with the MainConcept SDK encoder (the "Adobe Media Encoder")
VirtualDub only exports AVI.
I looked up MainConcept but the max bitrate looks like 16mbits while broadcast quality is actually higher than that (18ish?). What bitrate is a good number for archival? I can save videos up to 20GB each.
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I looked up MainConcept but the max bitrate looks like 16mbits while broadcast quality is actually higher than that (18ish?). What bitrate is a good number for archival? I can save videos up to 20GB each.
Are you using a template? If so, which one?

The MPEG-2 MP@HL is 100 Mbps.
DVD-Video is max 9.8 (or 10.08) Mbps. It doesn't go to 16 anyway
Blu-ray MPEG-2 is 15 Mbps.

So not sure what you're referring to.

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Note that video is 1000, not 1024 base.



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Are you using a template? If so, which one?

The MPEG-2 MP@HL is 100 Mbps.
DVD-Video is max 9.8 (or 10.08) Mbps. It doesn't go to 16 anyway
Blu-ray MPEG-2 is 15 Mbps.

So not sure what you're referring to.

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Note that video is 1000, not 1024 base.
As always, you are right
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I ended up not being happy with the quality outside of cartoons with what I was getting. Because my size allowance is so big, I ended up muxing to Lagarith instead for smaller sizes with same quality. I wanted Huffyuv but it was giving me grief.
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