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Hello,
Would like to know if there is any mpg encoding setting with ati usb 600 that would be dvdstyler ready? (can uncheck the encoding box).
So far didn't found such setting!
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06-28-2017, 07:25 AM
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Standard DVD is encoded as interlaced MPEG2, in one of 3 anamorphic frame sizes: NTSC = 720x480, 704x480, or 352x480 (PAL= 720x576, 704x576, or 352x576). 640x480 and other square-pixel frame sizes are not valid for DVD. The display aspect ratio (DAR) must be either 4:3 or 16:9, depending on the source. It's suggested that 720 width be used for 16:9 DAR. Frame rate is always 29.97fps NTSC, 25fps PAL.

Most DVD's are best encoded at 2-pass variable bitrate, using 5500 to 7500 as the mainstream target bitrate, with 9300 being the accepted maximum bitrate for DVD. A bitrate of 6200 target/9000 max 2-pass VBR (varible bitrate) will get 90 minutes of decent quality video on a single-layer DVD or about 2hrs 45min on double-layer, including menus, thumbnails, and other authoring features. Lower bitrates give lower quality. Audio should be Dolby Digital AC3 48KHz/16-bit, although uncompressed PCM 48KHz/16-bit is also accepted (Audio Layer II is low quality and obsolete, used only for PAL DVD, not valid for NTSC). Any other compressed audio format such as mp3 cannot be used.

If you intend to modify the image in any way, such as cropping or masking bottom-border tape head-switching noise, denoising, color correction, etc., you're making a big mistake capping to lossy codecs like MPEG. It is an intraframe final delivery format not designed for modification -- changes involve re-encoding and serious quality loss. Simple cut and join edits must be done with smart-rendering MPEG editors to avoid re-encoding.

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06-28-2017, 08:28 AM
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In the MMC encoder section go into the "custom" menu to adjust settings. I don't remember what those dialogs look like, I haven't installed MMC for capture since 2002. I never cap analog sources to lossy codecs.
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Thanks guys for your attention.

I did more try today without success.

I suspect that the audio codec is not DVD ready compliant.

Using ATI "MPEG-DVD" compression norm for this usb stick
give access only to "MPEG-1 Layer 2" audio codec.
Even trying audio LPCM give according to Gspot "MPEG-1 Layer 2" codec norm.

DVD Styler wont let me burn it without re-encoding.

But if I use those setting

http://www.digitalfaq.com/guides/vid...idemux-pt1.htm

I get ready to burn DVD.

Was just trying to avoid the re-encoding step for stuff that is more or less important...but it look like I cannot achieve this with ATI TV 600.

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06-28-2017, 04:08 PM
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I assumed you're using ATI MMC to capture video. Not sure of your video source or what you're doing at this point.
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I assumed you're using ATI MMC to capture video. Not sure of your video source or what you're doing at this point.
sure MMC for mpeg lossy capture and virtualdub/huffy for stuff that goes in the NLE chain...
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Oh. So you've captured to lossless AVi. Doesn't DVDStyler import and encode AVI? AviDemux encodes AVI as well. I didn't know you were just asking for advice about encoders, I thought you were talking about capture settings with MMC.
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Oh. So you've captured to lossless AVi. Doesn't DVDStyler import and encode AVI? AviDemux encodes AVI as well. I didn't know you were just asking for advice about encoders, I thought you were talking about capture settings with MMC.
Just saying that when I capture with lossless I know that I will have to encode!

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Yes I want to know if there is MMC mpg capture settings that will avoid re-encoding step for creating a DVD with DVDstyler!
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If you're asking how to capture noisy ugly analog directly to MPEG with MMC, what I posted are capture settings that are valid for DVD anywhere. There are many readers here who regularly produce ugly DVD's capturing analog sources in that way, so they can advise you in more detail. I don't recommend it, but it can be done with the settings I posted. If DVDStyler doesn't like standard DVD encodes, Id' suggest using other authoring software. But it seems you solved a problem by encoding from AVi to MPEG with Avidemux. As for MMC, it's not basically a stand-alone encoder -- it encodes only during capture.
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