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promoter_2000 11-20-2020 08:14 AM

Sony SLV 757VC will not read with transparent leader?
 
Hello everyone. My Sony SLV 757VC works regularly in everything but has, for some years now, a strange problem: when I insert a cassette with a transparent leader queue which, at the end of the tape loading, leaves the photodiode T (to the right of the compartment) or S uncovered (to the left of the compartment, if at the end of the tape) the mechanism no longer responds to any command and, after a while, the cassette is automatically ejected. When the two photodiodes are covered by the tape, everything works fine. If I cover with black adhesive tape both the central emitter led and the two lateral detection photodiodes, the play / rec starts regularly even with a transparent leader tail but, by rewinding the tape at the beginning, the commands no longer respond until I turn off / on the video recorder. I tried to clean the switch mode but it didn't help. The central infrared emitter LED works regularly (I see it lit by framing it with a ccd camera) and, by alternating the covers of the two lateral photodiodes, the mechanics respond regularly (but always crashing after rewind). From the tests done it seems to me that the central infrared emitter LED and the two side sensors work. Am I wrong? If LEDs and diodes work, as well as switch mode, why does the transparent tail block the mechanics? Thanks everyone for your attention.

latreche34 11-20-2020 12:18 PM

How a bout the cassette detection switch, Every VCR has a different location for it. When you insert the tape do you get the cassette logo in the front display? When the problem happens, does the logo go away or flicker?

promoter_2000 11-20-2020 03:43 PM

Yes, when the cassette is inserted the logo appears on the display and does not flash. When the problem appears, the logo is steadily lit without any flashing. By pressing the play button, the relative logo appears on the display and after a couple of seconds it switches off and the cassette is ejected. As I said before, if I slide all the transparent tail by hand and insert the cassette so that the first piece of magnetic tape obstructs the hole, the play starts immediately (this makes me believe that the right photodiode works regularly).

latreche34 11-20-2020 11:45 PM

So what's the problem then. All VCR's move the clear leader to the inside of the spool, Why are you manually unspooling it?

promoter_2000 11-21-2020 02:32 AM

To check if the problem was caused by one of the two faulty side photodiodes (or both). By doing so I verified that the transparent queue at the bottom of the tape does not give any problems (stopping the tape at the bottom of the cassette the vcr mechanics respond perfectly and this makes me think that the photodiode on the Supply side works properly). On the contrary, by rewinding the tape at the beginning, until the transparent tail is in front of the photodiode on the Take side, the mechanics of the 757 do not respond and eject the cassette; vice versa, if I run the transparent tail by hand to the beginning of the magnetic tape and then insert the cassette so that the Take photodiode is already covered, the mechanics work perfectly. This test, verified several times, makes me think that the problem is generated by the Take diode which, for some reason, sees but does not interpret the incoming infrared from the central LED (in the presence of the transparent tail), understanding only when it no longer sees the infrared (covered by magnetic tape). A half-functioning photodiode? It seems strange. A madness of mechanics that I can't explain to myself.

dpalomaki 11-21-2020 02:08 PM

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...transparent queue at the bottom of the tape...
I don't understand what you mean by this? Clear leader at each end of the tape?

promoter_2000 11-21-2020 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dpalomaki (Post 72991)
Clear leader at each end of the tape?

I apologize to everyone for the bad English (it's not my language; I'm using Google Translate).

That's right Dpalomaki: Clear leader at each end of the tape.

latreche34 11-21-2020 04:41 PM

What's the original problem? If the VCR plays tapes correctly then why are you testing sensors?

promoter_2000 11-22-2020 12:25 AM

It's true: the vcr reads and records regularly. The only problem is this refusal to "get going" when I insert a cassette with a transparent tape that is too long at the beginning (a defect that only appeared for a few years; before, even with these cassettes everything worked normally). In the area where I live, there are no more repair technicians willing to accept the device (and those already retired have told me that, in the era of 4K, I should have already thrown it in the garbage). For this reason, for a long time, I have been looking on the net for a solution to this defect which, I have seen, other owners of SLV 757 also complain (https://english.electronica-pt.com/repair-tips?ref=SLV757&marca=SONY&sintoma=). Unfortunately, up to now, I have not been successful. From the little that I have been told the origin of the defect could lie in a malfunction of the S and T photodiodes for this reason I have tried to investigate them with an empirical method (not having an oscilloscope).

Steppenwolf 03-20-2021 07:07 AM

Had the same problem, seems like it was a leaky SMD cap on the capstan motor board.

promoter_2000 03-20-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Steppenwolf (Post 76070)
Had the same problem, seems like it was a leaky SMD cap on the capstan motor board.

Great. The SMD you talk about is the only one you see on the board at the base of the motor, right?

Steppenwolf 03-20-2021 01:51 PM

It‘s the only cap on the capstan motor board, you can see it if you look at the mechanism from below, on the little PCB attached to the capstan Motor. 22µF, 16V. I don‘t think that it has a part number since the motor comes with the PCB attached.

promoter_2000 03-20-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steppenwolf (Post 76078)
It‘s the only cap on the capstan motor board, you can see it if you look at the mechanism from below, on the little PCB attached to the capstan Motor. 22µF, 16V. I don‘t think that it has a part number since the motor comes with the PCB attached.

Thank you very much! Now I don't have the vtr disassembled but I have seen on You Tube a movie showing the mechanics. I will try to change it as soon as possible.

AndreaVCR 04-05-2023 11:58 AM

Hi Promoter_2000,
I'm contacting you from Italy. I have the same Sony SLV-757 VCR as you with the same problem you are having. Could you confirm that changing that 22uf capacitor solves the problem?

promoter_2000 04-06-2023 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AndreaVCR (Post 90037)
Hi Promoter_2000,
I'm contacting you from Italy. I have the same Sony SLV-757 VCR as you with the same problem you are having. Could you confirm that changing that 22uf capacitor solves the problem?

Ciao. Si, se non ci sono altri inghippi (tipo i fotodiodi laterali destro e sinistro adibiti a riconoscere proprio la coda leader trasparente in testa e coda al nastro oppure l'emettitore ad infrarossi centrale) il problema si risolve cambiando quel condensatore smd. Per evitare il ripetersi del problema l'ho sostituito con un normale elettrolitico di pari valori e, sopratutto, di dimensione sufficientemente piccole da stare in quello spazio angusto e in modo da non creare alcun problema nel riposizionamento della scheda che sta sotto la meccanica.

AndreaVCR 04-06-2023 07:19 AM

thank you :congratulazioni:


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