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I have a DELL DIMENSION 8100 P4 1.5Ghz, 640MB, 40GB Win XP Pro Sp1. Was wondering which ATI ALL IN WONDER would be best for that system?
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"The motherboard has five PCI slots, three of which are free. However, it's advisable to fill only two of these, as the third, which sits by the AGP slot, is best left free to help cool the powerful graphics card. A V.90 modem card and the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card occupy two of the PCI slots. There are four USB ports, while the integrated 3Com 3C920 chip takes care of any networking demands. "

The PC seemed optimized for Windows 98 and came with a Pentium 4.

Win XP SP2 with a Full 2 GB would be marginal.. certainly don't try to do anything other than capture with it.

The AGP slot 1.5 will accept 2x/4x so a 4x/8x would be overkill.

Overall its a pretty light weight system by today's standards.

The ATI AIW VE would fit one of the 32 bit PCI slots

Any of the low end 9000, 9200 would be fine.. 9600 would work.. if you can get one grab it.. but this motherboard won't get you every bit of performance from a 9600 and might lead you to think the 9600 was the problem.. its the motherboard and the system.. its just made for the 20th not 21st century.

Only use it for Uncompressed capture to a second dedicated drive, perhaps using VirtualDub and Huffyuv.

There just isn't enough power for Compressed capture. Do that later on a more modern system.


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10-03-2019, 10:54 AM
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A little more information.

Wikipedia has a great section on the Dimension series with chipsets and expansion bus slots.

The 4000 vs the 8000 series refers to the FSB (Front Side Bus) where the memory is attached to the motherboard chipset. Simply put the 4000 runs at 400MHz the 8000 runs at 800MHz due to the 4000 using the Intel 865 chipset and the 8000 using the Intel 850/875 chipset. The 865 came out 'after' the 875. Its generally considered the 865 series is more stable and a better value.

The 8100 vs 8200 vs 8300 ect.. refers to the hardware revisions within Dell, so that the 8100 was released in year 2000, the 8200 was released in year 2001 and so on. Due to a comedy of errors the 8400 was released in year 2004

The 4000 was the stable mainstream consumer line the 8000 was more or less the 'Workstation' line and being on the cutting edge would offer things like CPU based disk RAID that the 4000 line did not offer or offered using a third party chip added to the motherboard.. basically the 8000 had more 'bling' that you probably wouldn't use.

2004 was the last year they made a 4000 or 8000 with an AGP slot, after that the new Intel 915 chipset would not have AGP support and transitioned to PCI Express. The final year (2004) also saw the release of AGP 8x where the previous year chipset only had AGP 4x slots. - That's not really relevant to video capture.. but it might be relevant if your capture card is a 1/2 versus 4/8 card. It also means an older AGP card may not work in the lower voltage 4/8 slots. This was a trend.. even for the PCI bus.. as CPU voltages got lower they had to lower the voltage available to expansion slots (or chose to do so.. so that no voltage leveling was required).

warning!

Faster FSB (does not mean 'more stable').. in fact 800 FSB had problems.. and was known to be very 'picky' about memory brands they would boot with.. some very popular memory brand names would not work in certain 800 FSB systems.. so all in all the 400 FSB was 'safer' and more compatible across the board.. it was released "later" and benefited from the lessons learned from the 800 FSB chipset releases.. (So) all in all the 4000 series was more stable, and a better value in the end.. than the bleeding edge (older 875 chipset based) 8000 models. An 8400 could be 2-5% faster than a 4000 model in the end.. but at a cost, value and stability wise.


my take on the various 'desktop lines'

Optiplex - business models (windows professional) ... (beware 2004/2005 Nichion 'capacitor-gate')
Dimension - home models (windows home)
XPS - gamer models (weird, non standard)

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