Horizontal rainbow artifacts from SVHS player s-video?
Hi everyone,
I'm going mad trying to archive some old VHS-C tapes. I purchased a JVC HR-S2902U from ebay. I am running it through a Roxio VHS to DVD USB converter. The composite videos look fine, aside from being a tad blurry. The S-Video output, which I read is supposed to be higher quality, might be a bit sharper but has crazy horizontal rainbow artifacts along the top of the video. Here is a sample: https://youtu.be/nmDa5-WNNGo I don't believe the Roxio capture device I have is busted because I have another 8mm camcorder with s-video output and when I plug it in through the Roxio it has no artifacts. Which leaves me to believe the culprit is the S-Video output on the JVC HR-S2902U might be busted. I was wondering if I can correct these artifacts using a Panasonic DMR-ES10 passthrough, or if I should get another VHS player, or better capture card that might be able to correct these artifacts? Thanks! |
That's the exact sort of error an ES10 will help with.
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Better capture card for sure -- the Roxio is a rebadged infamous Easycap (aka Easycrap).
The ES10 will help. You have a low-end S-VHS deck. Better than the standard consumer VHS VCR, but still not a recommended S-VHS deck with line TBC. The 29xx must be paired with the ES10/15 to even stand a remote chance of working well. See this: http://www.digitalFAQ.com/editorials...g-workflow.htm Especially this part: Quote:
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Hey yall, I appreciate the comments! I checked out the list you provided of SVHS players with line TBC but the ones I can see on eBay are out of my budget for this project as these are just home movies, but I found an ES-10 (with remote) for under $100. So now I have two questions remaining:
1. I noticed the ES-10 has a component output as well as S-Video, would you recommend capturing the component instead? 2. Any suggestions on a good capture card sub $100 (or at least better than the Roxio)? I have a desktop PC so I can install a PCI/PCI-e card if needed. I see a bunch on Amazon but I know their reviews are shady. If component signal is cleaner I would like to record from that. Again thanks for the help, I haven't used a hobbyist forum for over a decade and this reminds me why I like the "old" internet so much more. |
Component is technically superior but due to the low color resolution on most tape formats like VHS, I don't know if you would see a difference in practice (for NTSC that is, PAL is a bit different). I know not all DVRs output interlaced video over component in NTSC land though, but I think the ES10 can.
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Curious about this comment:
" The composite videos look fine, aside from being a tad blurry. The S-Video output, which I read is supposed to be higher quality, might be a bit sharper but has crazy horizontal rainbow artifacts along the top of the video." Question for the experts: Assuming this difference occurs when capturing the same tape, why would tearing occur in the s-video output but not the composite? 2nd question for the experts: Have any of you tried capturing with a Roxio VHS to DVD USB (or similar "easycrap") using the automatically installed plug and play, Directshow drivers and VirtualDub? I tried it just for fun and I was surprised that it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected. It seems much better than using the Roxio supplied software, especially when I captured the audio separately through the sound card. Separating the audio improved the audio quality and also allowed monitoring it while capturing (sound card/software dependent?). This was on Win7 Pro x64. BW |
Hey @BW37, maybe some more context for your first question:
I believe that the flagging only coming from S-Video was due to me plugging in the composite cables directly into my new-sh HDTV, and I read somewhere that newer TV's perform correction for errors like this. The flagging errors appear on the S-Video AND composite when viewed through my Roxio capture card on my PC. |
Thanks. That makes more sense.
BW |
Did some reading, I will experiment with HR-S2902U -> ES10 -> Diamond VC500 -> Virtualdub. Thanks for your help everybody :):):)
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Did you try changing the Video Stabilizer setting in the menu?
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@msgohan don't have one. I ordered one along with the ES10 so I'll see if there are some settings on the player to adjust. :)
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