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07-31-2020, 11:50 AM
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I'm gearing up to capture a bunch of old VHS home movies, and just picked up a JVC S9900U S-VHS deck. Works fine other than having to press the S-VHS button before I load a VHS tape (ejects immediately otherwise), which is a little weird, but I'll get used to it.

In the sample tapes I've played (only a few minutes each), I definitely see a difference between enabling and disabling the TBC/NR.

But since this machine already has a built-in TBC, what's the incremental value in *also* having an AVT-8710 in line to the capture device?

Are we talking just a minor additional improvement, or a significant difference?

If it matters, what I'm capturing are home movies recorded between 1979 and 1990 (my grandfather was a bit of an early adopter of VHS). So, no MacroVision, broadcast recordings, or mass-produced tapes, but they are rather old, and I can't guarantee they're all in SP mode.

I'm not expecting miracles from any TBC, but I do want to do a reasonably good job at this capture, since it may be the last chance before either these things disintegrate or it becomes impossible to find tech to capture them.
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There cannot be any duel.

AVT-8710 = frame sync TBC
JVC S-VHS VCR = line TBC

Not the same.

- line TBC cleans the image, some byproduct affects on signal
- frame TBC cleans the signal, some byproduct affects on image

You need both. Quality visual/image, quality signal. These devices are complementary.

Buy both. Buy it, use it, resell it. This gear holds value.

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07-31-2020, 12:27 PM
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Thanks, I suspected so, that's the encouragement I needed!

I just found one on eBay (green). Paid $1500 after tax and shipping, so I hope it does retain its value! lol

I'm certainly not planning to start a VHS capture business, and between this and the JVC, $2k is a LOT to invest in preserving some home movies...

(At the time of this post, there's still another one up there for sale, in case anyone is looking...)
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That seller is also here.
Listing: AVToolbox green AVT-8710 TBC [SOLD]

Always checks the marketplace forums before running to eBay/etc.

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Oh wow! I've been looking around but missed that post somehow. Guess I paid the eBay premium

At least I know it came from a good home...
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The rule is that eBay is a video dumping ground, lots of sellers BS you, don't truly know what "working" means.
But every rule has exceptions.
It doesn't happen often, but sometimes members here co-list, with eBay have the +fees pricing.

I've made a suggestion to that member. Get together. Communicate with each other in PMs.

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Oh wow! I've been looking around but missed that post somehow. Guess I paid the eBay premium

At least I know it came from a good home...
I have PM'd you back.
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