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10-14-2020, 09:28 AM
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Hello! I have been trying to capture old video tapes in order to keep them in a digital form. However, most of the tapes I record either come out in black and white, or with green and pink stripes. I'm not sure why so, if the tape is damaged, whether the capture device is cheap. I thought the issue was due to the Vcr being PAL and some vhr were made in the US, so ntsc. However, i have the same issues when I capture PAL tapes with PAL recorder. Any thoughts on what might cause these issues? Thanks a lot.
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Little to no information in your post to answer, Model numbers of hardware, standard of tapes, capture software ...etc.
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The capture device is an "easy cap". I'm using a Sony Handycam to convert video 8 and a Samsung SV-645X on a windows 10 laptop. I'm note sure what the problem is because there were a couple of videos that came out in colours with a decent image quality. But the majority came out in black and white with flickering horizontal green/pink stripes.
I hope this info is enough, I'm not sure what else I should include
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Hwhether the capture device is cheap.
This is a primary problem. Probably not the only issue here, but the largest one.
Easycap is known as "Easycrap" for a reason.

You need something along the lines of an ATI 600 USB, or clone, to get truly good quality.

What OS?

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I thought it wasn't a very good device, but I wasn't sure whether the black and white and the horizontal stripes were caused by the device or not. Which one would you recommend instead to fix this issue?

My operating system is a windows 10 and I use OBS software to capture the video.
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Right off the bat Easycap is the wrong device, OBS is the wrong software.
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What software and device would you recommend for mostly PAL tapes and windows 10 OS?
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See post #4 for capture device and use Vdub.
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Are these stripes on one of the edges? Side or top?
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Nope, its on the whole image. I have attached a picture of it. I guess it is a problem of wrong equipment used.
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Question from PM, need to answer here:

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Would I still get decent results without a tbc on PAL?
Unlikely. Some form of TBC is required. An ES10/15 minimalist TBC(ish) still has a fail rate, but better than nothing. The fail rate depends on the VCR and sources tapes. But minimalist budget setup better than none at all. Better is pair DVK+ES10/15, then you get more towards actual TBC. And then best/ideal is line TBC in S-VHS deck with external framesync TBC.

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Just wondering if the image might be kinda flickering or not.
Yes, no, maybe?

You're asking a binary question: "If X, does Y?"
Well, that's not how it works.
Video isn't binary.

You must understand 4 concepts: source tape, VCR, TBC, capture card.

The source tape quailty is the beginning.
- If good, output good.
- If less than good, output can still be good.
- If bad, output may always be bad.

The VCR must be good. It controls how good or bad of a signal is lifted from the source tape.

The TBC(s) tame the signal off the VCR heads, adjust for quality, purify for the capture. The TBC must not only be good (not flawed), but designed for the sources.

The capture card must be good, as it controls how the signal is forever committed to digital form.

You cannot have a bad tape, POS VCR, no TBC, and the bestest ever capture card, then expect quality results because of the good card. Quality doesn't completely rely on the capture card. It's just a piece of the puzzle

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