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As lingyi mentioned there was none in Europe with S-Video and most were mono machines, Beta wasn't really a hit in Europe, Video 2000 probably did better.
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In some markets, Betamax did very well, in others it was almost totally ignored. V2000 was definitely the third horse in the race, beyond the Netherlands (home of Philips) and Germany (Grundig influence) V2000 was little more than a footnote. I think it squeezed about 10% of the UK market for a short period as one example. Philips seemed to initially approach the concept a bit differently, it takes a bit of explanation but Philips saw home-video as far more of a time shift device than a pre-recorded media device and used the 8-Hour recording time (without quality loss) with V2000 as the selling point rather than available media; in the beginning at least. I don't have the figures with me, but I recall some of the Nordic nations being a far more even Betamax/VHS split than here in Brexitstan. France is its own story and will be covered in my documentary as it's a bit crazy what went on there, it can be (albeit a bit of a sideways, tongue-in-cheek view) contemplated that the format war actually started in France. I have SECAM Betamax decks so it did make some inroads. |
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I can't find out any information about it, how closely linked to ED it is I've no idea :hmm: |
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Does anyone have any knowledge on if you go out composite from beta into the TBC composite, then going out S-video into the AIW? Will there be signal issues or any quality loss? Pros or Cons of trying such a method?
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I don't use those AIW cards, but I understand that the Y-C filtering isn't the best. If you're doing this as a hobby why not experiment though, experimentation is all part of it. You can make a couple of captures and A/B them to determine what works best for you, I'd imagine it will be the Y-C output into the card though. |
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There are guidelines certainly, but you need to please yourself ultimately, you don't answer to anybody on here. If not, you'll get an appreciation of 'why' things are recommended and be able to appreciate the received wisdom, and you can understand what effect Y-C/Composite etc has. Then you can have a little 20 minute project learning how to make a side-by-side video in AVISynth/VirtualDub for your AB testing. There's quite a bit you can get from that little learning exercise. |
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As for the setup I have now though, This is perfect and will definitely do that! |
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There has to be room for a bit of experimentation though, occasionally it turns up trumps, if you're going to go through this you might as well enjoy it and learn a bit about video signals, digitisation etc. The best way to learn why some things are not recommended is to try them, then you'll appreciate why they don't come recommended. Obviously, don't do anything injurious to a machine or a tape! ...and to pinch a quote from a great marketing guru, and something I've learned (sometimes the hard way) in business.... Sometimes, the opposite of a good idea is a good idea. There are good guidelines and a wealth of information out there but never get in the arms race of satisfying forumites and those you can't pick out from a crowd. Take the advice and do great things with it, but only you can be the judge of what works best with what you have. |
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The only question is if the frame TBC takes comp in, and allows svid out. If so, enable the comb filter (should already be on), and you're good to go. Probably. I don't have time to test this with mine right now. |
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On a forward note, I did test the theory of going from Composite to the TBC, Out via S-Video into the AIW and it worked pretty well. The video seems a little hue'd green but that's an easy adjustment. Overall not bad at all. Now to test if some of the imperfections I see are on the tape or within the process as there are some lines and small but noticeable imperfections on the video feed. |
Check the TBC proc amp. I don't recall if the comp and svid have isolated settings. I rarely capture composite, and usually use my green AVT-8710 when I do. Most TBCs won't even allow this, there's no crossover.
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You know, energy drinks are deliberately flavoured to taste pretty vile, that taste associated with energy drinks was found to be 'just' palatable. Without the taste, energy drinks don't perform as well in either sales or perception - so yeah, sometimes doing the opposite of received wisdom yields results, sometimes. We can all be easily tricked, whether we appreciate it or not, those who claim to be immune are usually the most easily swayed. Anyway, wandering a bit off-topic, but good luck with everything. |
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For some reason I've always loved that weird energy drink style flavor hahaha. Not all of them but some in particular and it makes sense how you put it. Thank you for the fun conversation though. Much appreciated again. |
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https://www.palsite.com/tapes.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmkKHR6YRes Pro-X were regular oxide formulation, though high quality tapes, not metal oxide like the ED-Beta tapes. I tried used a ED-Beta tape in on of my non-ED-Beta machines and got nothing. Another interesting trait of ED-Beta tapes were they were immune to the bulk eraser I had for reel-to-reel tapes, unlike regular Beta and VHS tapes. BetaSP tapes like the one shown in the video were available in both oxide and metal. The first of these tapes was the Pro-X tape which worked with the Super Beta Pro mode found on the SL-HF750 and SL-HF950. After this came tapes for the ED-BETA format. Sadly there are very few PAL ED-BETA machines available, in the NTSC market lots of models were produced and some are still available. Although Pro-X tapes were intended for use in Super Betamax format, they were often found by many as a high grade tape for the standard beta. One particularly good use was for PCM audio recordings. According to Palsite, PAL ED-BETA machines are now only to be found in the middle eastern markets in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Israel. Another fact I didn't know. I also learned that the SL-HF950 was the PAL version of the SL-HF750. As I recall, the Sl-HF750 was the last mid/high end Betamax. I considered getting one at the time, but as I recall, I somehow, probably from Japanese magazines, knew about the upcoming 15th Anniversary Betamax and waited for that instead. |
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IMO, I would get a Japanese ED-Beta machine. While not cheap, they're a relative bargain, assuming they're in good working order at <$1000. You'll pay at least twice that for a SL-HF2100. The only other Betamax with S-Video. There's always the what else could I have done better that would nag at me! This is the main reason I gave up on capturing a long time ago and have learned to be patient as almost everything commercial worth having eventually was/is released on better quality video. I'm very patient. Only recently was a Blu-Ray version of a movie from my favorite Taiwanese actress released. Prior to that, the only copy I had was a VCD from 25+ years ago! FYI, in my Betaphile years, I'd wait until the top models dropped below $1000 before I got them. This was the main reason I never got a SL-HF1000 or EDV-9500. They never dropped below $1000. <GRIN> |
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