ATI 600 USB video capture card drivers + Catalyst Media Center [DOWNLOAD]

[Ohank]

Good to know about that USBDeview. I'm just looking at my C drive on the XP Laptop trying to figure out how to make room. I've had a program called Treesize Professional which shows how big files and folders are. Some of the biggest are pretty technical stuff in documents. Even in the temp file I get lots of messages saying it can't delete because it's being used by another person or program. When I got Defragger there was a mention of a program to clean out unnecessary stuff called CC Cleaner. Any tips on if that's an OK program or one like it. Thanks

[Hackerpcs]

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

ATI 600 USB on Win10 can be fiddly, as there is no single OS of "Win10". There are many versions of Win10, and some will outright refuse to install capture cards. Some cards are more resilient than others, but the 600 USB isn't one. Ironically, the 600 USB clones are, using the generic eMPIA drivers.

Windows 10 1809 seems to be the cutoff for the drivers to work, on latest Windows 10 21h1 I get

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Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)

{Bad Image}
%hs is either not designed to run on Windows or it contains an error. Try installing the program again using the original installation media or contact your system administrator or the software vendor for support. Error status 0x

when on Windows 10 LTSC 2019 (1809) the driver works alright. I'm probably going to run Windows 10 LTSC 2019 from a VHDx virtual disk for capturing.

[Hackerpcs]

After a bit of digging I found that the driver doesn't work if Windows 10 is in hypervisor mode. Hypervisor mode can be checked if it's enabled by typing "systeminfo" in a command line/PowerShell window, it's enabled if it says in the end

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Hyper-V Requirements: A hypervisor has been detected. Features required for Hyper-V will not be displayed.

and not something along the lines of

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Hyper-V Requirements:
VM Monitor Mode Extensions: Yes
Virtualization Enabled In Firmware: Yes
Second Level Address Translation: Yes
Data Execution Prevention Available: Yes

The hypervisor mode is enabled if:
- Windows feature "Hyper-V Hypervisor" is turned on. It's ONLY that, not the whole "Hyper-V" category, e.g. the PS module and the required services for e.g. Optimize-VHD cmdlet to work don't put Windows in hypervisor mode
- Core isolation/HVCI security feature is enabled
- "Virtual Machine Platform" Windows feature is enabled, which is required for WSL2 to work, ie no WSL2 and ATI 600 USB driver can work at the same time

So the driver is compatible even with the latest Windows 10 21H1 (19043) but not if Windows is in Hypervisor mode, possibly the same applying to older Windows versions too

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by Hackerpcs

So the driver is compatible even with the latest Windows 10 21H1 (19043) but not if Windows is in Hypervisor mode, possibly the same applying to older Windows versions too

Hypervisor is off here, same tearing-type issue on ATI 600 USB and clones.

[Hackerpcs]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf

Hypervisor is off here, same tearing-type issue on ATI 600 USB and clones.

Yeah that's what I found out later, on any Windows 10 over 1809 it can output image but it has those issues so it can't capture.

I have a Windows 10 LTSC 2019 (based on 1809) install that I do my captures on and it works well, tested very extensively

Other than a different partition install which would be the easiest, I have it on a vhdx that I added to the boot menu to have it boot directly from a ~30GB file on my SSDs. It's pretty complicated to do and I recommend just a different partition install but I'll leave the links that explain how it can be done if anyone wants to try

Install Windows to vhdx
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...iew=windows-11
follow until Step 2, others are not needed. install.wim file is located on the sources directory on the LTSC 2019 iso (and any Windows 10 iso). After Windows is installed on the vhdx it can be added to the boot menu like this
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/native...disk-vhdx.611/

[Igotquestions]

I suppose its "Game Over" for all newer systems after the 1803 Windows 10 version or so?
Windows 10 and 11 is now game over to use them?

[Hackerpcs]

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Originally Posted by Igotquestions

I suppose its "Game Over" for all newer systems after the 1803 Windows 10 version or so?
Windows 10 and 11 is now game over to use them?

Yeah for anything over Windows 10 1809 the driver isn't compatible, it will never be updated so it's over

Windows 10 LTSC 2019 has support until 2029
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/li...rise-ltsc-2019
so it's alright, it's not like you're using an old or unsupported OS to do captures.
Careful that regular Windows 10 1809 has long ended support in 2021 (Home/Pro in 2020 but can be converted on a live OS to Enterprise easily), it's a different product
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/li...-and-education

[Igotquestions]

Thank you so much for clarification!
Sad news, but understandable. nothing lasts forever.

Well its about time to install XP or W7 on some kind of capturing mini PC maybe for me!

[Igotquestions]

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Originally Posted by Hackerpcs

Yeah for anything over Windows 10 1809 the driver isn't compatible, it will never be updated so it's over

Windows 10 LTSC 2019 has support until 2029
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/li...rise-ltsc-2019
so it's alright, it's not like you're using an old or unsupported OS to do captures.
Careful that regular Windows 10 1809 has long ended support in 2021 (Home/Pro in 2020 but can be converted on a live OS to Enterprise easily), it's a different product
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/li...-and-education

Actually. Maybe I should try the "Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019" thingy!