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If you're looking for help installing an ATI All In Wonder Radeon card, then you've found the right place.

On the following three pages, you'll find dozens of driver downloads, ISOs of installer CDs, ATI Multimedia Center (ATI MMC) setups, and general information on the entire ATI video capture/recording card series since 2000. To download files, you'll simply need to be a Free Member or Premium Member. If you have any questions, either reply to this thread or create a new one in the capturing forum.


Which version ATI card -- AGP vs PCI vs PCI express

- If you're using the ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro card, please read the special ATI MMC 8.x + ATI 128 Pro hack guide.
- If you're using the ATI All In Wonder Radeon PCI or AGP cards, posts #1 through #5 apply.
- If you're using the ATI All In Wonder Radeon PCI express cards, post #48 has the files you need.
- If you're using the ATI 600 series cards, go here: ATI 600 USB video capture card drivers + Catalyst Media Center [DOWNLOAD]
- If you're using the ATI 650 series cards, go here: ATI 650 USB video capture card drivers [DOWNLOAD]

ATI "copy protection" Problems ?


There are four hacks inside the attached RAR archive, and I suggest you try ATI-MV-Hack.zip first. Try the 2005 Driver Replacement next. Only use these if you need them, they are not a requirement of using the ATI capture guides. These files are also not guaranteed to work on all systems. These are provided because the Macrovision/anti-copy schemes used on these older ATI All In Wonder cards are ridiculously over-sensitive -- as it is with many capture cards and DVD recorders, not just ATI cards!! -- and wrongly prevent the conversion of home recorded videos. A good external TBC is a better guaranteed-to-work method.

More Notes...
  • HuffYUV lossless AVI codec: Install this on your system to enable lossless-but-compress AVI capture system-wide, including ATI MMC.
  • ATI Drivers and Multimedia Center (ATI MMC) software install instructions appear on other forum posts and site guides, when needed.
  • Confused about RAR and ZIP files? Read this post for more information: What are ZIP and RAR files? + How to use them


Attached Files
File Type: rar ATI-Hacks.rar (146.9 KB, 891 downloads)
File Type: rar HuffYUV-Codec.rar (20.6 KB, 607 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-128pro-drivers-1st-wxpw2k.rar (7.18 MB, 544 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-128pro-drivers-2nd-cp.part1.rar (7.92 MB, 485 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-128pro-drivers-2nd-cp.part2.rar (4.43 MB, 442 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-1st-wdm.rar (3.03 MB, 551 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-2nd-wme.rar (6.67 MB, 506 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-3rd-cp.rar (4.66 MB, 482 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-4th-mdacdao.part1.rar (7.92 MB, 500 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-4th-mdacdao.part2.rar (7.92 MB, 485 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-4th-mdacdao.part3.rar (1.23 MB, 432 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-5th-hydra.part1.rar (7.92 MB, 436 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-6168package-5th-hydra.part2.rar (2.95 MB, 404 downloads)
File Type: zip ATI-MMC-128pro-hack.zip (375 Bytes, 414 downloads)

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Attached Files
File Type: rar ATI-MMC-81-daomdac.part1.rar (7.92 MB, 562 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MMC-81-daomdac.part2.rar (7.92 MB, 504 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MMC-81-daomdac.part3.rar (1.23 MB, 460 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MMC-87.part1.rar (7.92 MB, 751 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MMC-87.part2.rar (7.92 MB, 662 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MMC-87.part3.rar (7.92 MB, 654 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MMC-87.part4.rar (221.5 KB, 559 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MS-DirectX-9c.part1.rar (7.92 MB, 390 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MS-DirectX-9c.part2.rar (7.92 MB, 372 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MS-DirectX-9c.part3.rar (7.92 MB, 405 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MS-DirectX-9c.part4.rar (7.92 MB, 378 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI-MS-DirectX-9c.part5.rar (1.86 MB, 345 downloads)

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More installers, added by request.

archived stats:
ATI-611-Catalyst-Installer (431 downloads)
ATI-MMC-902 (479 downloads)


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File Type: zip 6-11-pre-r300_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_38185.zip (48.17 MB, 4 downloads)
File Type: zip mmc-9-02-0-0.zip (28.23 MB, 4 downloads)

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Attached in this post is the ATI All-In-Wonder installation CD 181-G01116-110, which came with one of the 9000-series 7000 series ATI AIW Radeon AGP cards, and features ATI MMC 8.8 ATI MMC 7.7 and the Catalyst drivers of that era. This install CD was tested with an ATI AIW 7500 AGP card ATI AIW 9200 and an ATI AIW 9600 cards, and found to work perfectly.

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Update: I've had to strike out some of the above text, and update this post. Although one might think that "181" comes after "180", it's simply not the case. The 180 series discs came with later 9000 series cards, while 181 series discs appear to have come from 7000 series cards. Rather than delete this post, or it's attachments, I'll simply leave it up for anybody that may want it.

A new post has be created, and the proper 9000 series installer CD can be found further down this page:
Shortcut link: ATI All In Wonder Hacks, Drivers, Codecs and MMC

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This is a multi-part RAR file containing an ISO image.
If you're not sure what to do with the attached RAR files, then read this help post.

Simply burn the ISO to a CD-R or CD-RW -- not a DVD -- using ImgBurn.
Or as an alternative method, mount the ISO as virtual CD drive, using Gizmo Drive, Magic ISO or Daemon Lite.



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ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon cards (PCI and AGP) had two styles of install.

From 2000 to mid 2003, there were at least three separate installers that had to be installed in a specific order.
The installers were:
  • graphics drivers,
  • video capture drivers,
  • and control panels.
Because people don't seem to be able to read, there were many problems from out-of-order installs. ATI software has never been simple, it sort of "octopuses" itself into your computer, with bits and pieces all over the place, in order to run correctly. Video capture is, after all, a fairly complex task, and this was a rather advanced piece of hardware.

When installed in the wrong order, it was difficult to uninstall and start over. At one time, ATI even had a "ATI removal" tool, to help in this process. Latter generation cards had added optional installers, to be installed after the core three installers, which included some Windows Media encoding options, as well as the TV guides and remote control features. You often found yourself installing 6-7 things on the new 2003 model cards.

For example, you'll notice how I've labeled the files 1st-5th on the v6168 package (the last ATI installer from the "separate installer" era):
  • ATI-6168package-1st-wdm.rar
  • ATI-6168package-2nd-wme.rar
  • ATI-6168package-3rd-cp.rar
  • ATI-6168package-4th-mdacdao.part1.rar
  • ATI-6168package-4th-mdacdao.part2.rar
  • ATI-6168package-4th-mdacdao.part3.rar
  • ATI-6168package-5th-hydra.part1.rar
  • ATI-6168package-5th-hydra.part2.rar
From late 2003 until the end-of-life of the card series (2005/2006), the three installers were merged into a single installer application named "Catalyst". Early versions showed you each of the drivers/utilities being separately installed, but as time went on that became transparent, as if it were a single install of a single program.

After the various drivers and control panels were installed, you installed ATI Multimedia Center (ATI MMC), that was used for capturing video, or to timer record TV shows. Then and now, this was the best tool for this card, having been designed specifically for the hardware.
  • NOTE: ATI MMC 8.x series also required the installation of DAO/MDAC package, adding yet another installer.
On top of all this, nothing from ATI would install until you had Windows DirectX 9 series (9.0c, I believe) installed correctly. Windows ME and early versions of XP came with DirectX 8 by default, which was not powerful enough to run the ATI video. This was another issue from the original 2000-2003 installer method, as some steps could not continue until DirectX9 was installed. Although a warning was usually given, again people did not read, clicked OK (thereby ignoring the warning), and the install process would abort. Again, you'd have an incomplete mess installed, and it wasn't always easy to uninstall and start over.

A lot of people whinged/whined and complained in forums about this (or in reviews online), but this was still a very mild install procedure compared to other complex/professional video cards of the era, such as Matrox or Avid hardware. The realtime Matrox cards, with their heavy Adobe suite integration, made ATI installation look simple. I still firmly believe the complaints were all related to lazy users and/or people that did not read the instructions. It was rare to find a legitimate install issue, when instructions were read and followed. It was not a dummy-friendly hardware/software combo, it took some effort to set up -- you couldn't just cram a disc in a CD drive, hit "go" and walk away, returning 10 minutes later ready to record some TV.

I hope this historical insight helps clarify the variances in files.

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ATI All In Wonder card models:

Just to add in some useful information, the following list is for the only ATI All In Wonder cards that could use ATI Multimedia Center (ATI MMC) versions 8-9. These PCI and AGP cards are often referred to as the "classic" series of cards on this site. More on that in the history writeup below.

PCI: (Rage Theatre chipset)
  • ATI All-in-Wonder VE Radeon 7500
AGP: (Rage Theatre chipset)
  • ATI All-in-Wonder 128 Pro
  • ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon (7200)
  • ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 7500
  • ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500 / AIW 8500 DV
AGP: (Theatre 200 chipset)
  • ATI All-in-Wonder 9000
  • ATI All-in-Wonder 9200
  • ATI All-in-Wonder 9600 / AIW 9600 XT / AIW 9600 Pro
  • All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro (PAL)
  • All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro
  • ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 Edition AGP8x
PCI Express: (Theatre 200 chipset)
  • ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 Edition PCI-E
  • ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600 Pro
  • ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X800 XL
  • ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X1800 XL
  • ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X1900

History of ATI AIW Radeon cards:

The PCI and AGP cards are what many of us call the "classic" ATI cards, because they were well respected, and were developed at a time when ATI was heavily into both graphics and video processing. The cards not only worked, they worked well! In the early 2000s, ATI was actually giving professional video companies like Canopus and Matrox a hard time, cutting into their NLE card business. Why buy a $2K Canopus DVstorm or Matrox RTX card when you could get an ATI for $200-400? After all, all of them could do MPEG-2, DV and uncompressed 4:2:2 AVI with excellent results. The extra $1.5K could go towards other expenses, such as software or even the rest of the computer. Matrox even tried to compete with ATI, with their lower-cost Matrox G450 card.

The Rage Theatre chipset, used with ATI MMC, was reported to be a hybrid hardware/software MPEG encoding system, based off the professional Ligos GoMotion MPEG encoding technology. The updated Theatre 200 card refined the quality of video input, as well as offloaded about 5-10% more of the MPEG processing into the chip and off of the main system CPU.

The 7000 cards originally shipped with ATI MMC version 7, which was decent but lacked some of the features that really made these cards work well. ATI MMC 8 brought more recording features, including the well-liked "VideoSoap" option that allowed for filtering of the video -- restoration of cleanup. The ATI AIW 128 Pro required a hack to use v8, using files found on this site, but the others natively accepted the v8 upgrade.

When AMD bought ATI in 2006, the video applications were tossed to the side, with ATI being gutted for their GPU abilities, to fortify AMD products. Intel had long had in-house Intel graphics abilities, and now AMD had ATI in-house. Even into 2010, the AMD ATI site was largely full of broken links and missing information -- some of which appears to have been restored after a multi-year absence.

The PCI Express cards were built later in the ATI AIW generation, at a time when consumers were demanding more of a "PVR" recording style from computer cards. A PVR, or personal video recorder, simply records television and is not really made with general video input capturing in mind -- for example, VHS to DVD. The latter versions of ATI MMC 9.x required by the PCI-E generation of cards also removed or limited some recording options coveted during the "classic" years, such as VideoSoap. There was also more emphasis on MPEG-4 recording, even though it made for a horrible capture format.

You'll note that this All-In-Wonder card list does not match the list at Wikipedia. I firmly believe there are mistakes on that list, even when sources are given. My information is based on a decade of accumulated research and first-hand experience. Beyond that, my list closely matches the official "by chipset" list from AMD's December 2010 site. In my opinion, it's also an issue of authority -- this site is well known for its information on using ATI All In Wonder cards, through the efforts of site members like lordsmurf, whereas Wikipedia is not.

The major "problem" of the ATI All In Wonder series is that Windows left it behind. With AMD now focusing on new GPU related products, legacy products did not receive video-related updates to function correctly in Windows XP MCE, Windows Vista or Windows 7. You have to build a system around Windows XP, on a good AGP motherboard. For most serious video hobbyists and professionals, that's really not an issue, as the machine is built specifically for video capturing, and not as a general-use family computer. KVMs are used to keep overall desk footprints small.

It's honestly near-impossible to replace a quality ATI All In Wonder card, even by spending $500-1000 or more.

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Hello Admins,

Could you upload the 8.8 version of MMC with the necessary extra installers. I see you have 8.7 and then jump to the catalyst installer. It seems that 8.8 is the version to use for capturing through an AIW card. Thanks for putting all these in one place.
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Could you upload the 8.8 version of MMC with the necessary extra installers. I see you have 8.7 and then jump to the catalyst installer. It seems that 8.8 is the version to use for capturing through an AIW card. Thanks for putting all these in one place.
I can do one better, actually. I could possibly upload the original ISO for the installer DVD that included ATI MMC 8.8. It would be uploaded into 30MB chunks, attached to a post. I believe it was a CD anyway, and not even half full, so not bad at all. Give me a day or so to get that together.

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I just bought an ATI TV Wonder HD 600 PCIE card, part number TVW600PCIEV. Will the Macrovision hacks posted work with it?

If I have posted to the wrong thread please let me know, a bit new at this.

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I just bought an ATI TV Wonder HD 600 PCIE card, part number TVW600PCIEV. Will the Macrovision hacks posted work with it?
It's not likely. The hardware is completely different.

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One of the installer CDs was just added to post #4 above. // Shortcut link: http://www.digitalFAQ.com/forum/show....html#post9470

In total, I have six original CDs archived.
  1. ATI All-In-Wonder 7000-Series Drivers from Compaq.iso
  2. ATI All-In-Wonder (180-G01445-200).iso
  3. ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).iso
  4. ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (181-G01116-110).iso
  5. ATI CD-DVD Player v104 (CIM104D).iso
  6. ATI Multimedia Center (MMC) ver7 Setup.iso
The "180" and "181" discs came from ATI AIW 9x00 cards.

Beyond that, everything was obtained via downloads from now-gone ATI.com archives, or custom hacks/drivers shared amongst the then-active ATI community. I even have some obscure things, like ATI AIW drivers for Windows 3.1, though I never did test that one. In total, there's 4.13GB of files.

Due to size, files are only uploaded as needed or requested. Some of them are redundant anyway. Files can be uploaded on request.

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I even have some obscure things, like ATI AIW drivers for Windows 3.1, though I never did test that one. In total, there's 4.13GB of files.
I actually have an original circa 1997 ATI All-in-Wonder card (PCI, 4MB Rage II+DVD chip, Bt829 capture, ImpacTV video out). Video capture and TV tuning does work in Windows 3.1 despite what ATI's marketing materials said at the time. I have the original install CD for it somewhere. One of these days I'll revive the machine its in and do quality tests. I purchased it new and it cost quite a bit in those days.
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I can do one better, actually. I could possibly upload the original ISO for the installer DVD that included ATI MMC 8.8. It would be uploaded into 30MB chunks, attached to a post. I believe it was a CD anyway, and not even half full, so not bad at all. Give me a day or so to get that together.

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Can you _please_ upload the ISO with ATI MMC 8.8 here?

Although I have Windows XP, will those ISOs work on Windows 7?

(I'd really like to see more ISOs here so I could test which version is best for me, even the Windows 3.1 version would be nice. Unfortunately the latest MMC downloads at AMD don't work, the setup just exits without saying anything.)
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ATI MMC will not work with Windows Vista or Windows 7, according to user tests and comments made in this forum in the past two years. Windows XP is required. Unless a card specifically requires Windows Vista or Windows 7 (which almost none do), you'll get the best capture experience -- with ANY card -- using Windows XP. Put together a second system, based on Windows XP, specifically for capturing video. You can use a KVM to share monitor, mouse, keyboard and speakers with your newer Windows Vista or Win7 computer.

You'll find the 9000 series install CD in post #4 in this thread. This specific CD should contain ATI MMC v8.8.

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ATI MMC will not work with Windows Vista or Windows 7, according to user tests and comments made in this forum in the past two years. Windows XP is required. Unless a card specifically requires Windows Vista or Windows 7 (which almost none do), you'll get the best capture experience -- with ANY card -- using Windows XP. Put together a second system, based on Windows XP, specifically for capturing video. You can use a KVM to share monitor, mouse, keyboard and speakers with your newer Windows Vista or Win7 computer.

You'll find the 9000 series install CD in post #4 in this thread. This specific CD should contain ATI MMC v8.8.
Thank you very much for your quick reply!

I tested that ISO and it turned out to be MMC 7.1. Maybe the MMC version depends on the card type? I have AIW128-PCI.

I'd be very happy if there would be more ISOs to try. Even the Windows 3.1 one.

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Second: Does anyone know where MMC stores the channel frequencies? I need to manually add my VHS videorecorder to the cable channels list, as I don't want to do a full scan each time I switch from videorecorder to TV and vice versa. This is because some TV cable channel uses the same frequencies as my videorecorder, so I need to change cabling each time.
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Second: Does anyone know where MMC stores the channel frequencies? I need to manually add my VHS videorecorder to the cable channels list, as I don't want to do a full scan each time I switch from videorecorder to TV and vice versa. This is because some TV cable channel uses the same frequencies as my videorecorder, so I need to change cabling each time.
Possibly in the registry?
There's also a chance it's stored in the tuner hardware firmware.
This was asked 10 years ago on Rage3D, but was never answered then, either.

At this late date, an analog tuner won't pick up much of anything (possibly NOTHING) in our now-digital broadcast era.

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I have an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600 Pro, and I’m trying to turn off its annoying Macrovision “feature.” I tried using the ATI-MV-Hack, but it didn’t work - so I tried to use the 2005 Driver Replacement method by copying the ativmvxx.ax (2005) file into the Windows/System32 directory as suggested. Unfortunately some kind of self-preservation feature seems to be activated, and within seconds Windows XP has copied back the newer 2008 file I was trying to overwrite. I’m guessing it’s probably some kind of anti-hacking technology in Windows. Any suggestions on how to make the overwrite stick?
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within seconds Windows XP has copied back the newer 2008 file I was trying to overwrite.
I don't know if it will make a difference long-term to the goal, but to address this specific issue, you can always right-click on the file (that you want to stay), go to properties, and then tick/check the "Read-only" box. See if that makes a difference.

However, to truly rid yourself of all anti-copy detection, false or genuine, you simply need to purify the video signal. Remember that anti-copy is an artificial signal noise, and over-sensitive recording devices (which is 99% of them) often confuse any signal noise with the artificial anti-copy noise. To purify a signal, your best solution is to use a full-frame external timebase corrector (or TBC). Read this: What is a TBC? Time Base Correction for Videotapes

A TBC will always work, even if detection-removal hacks do not.

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Attached in this post is the ATI All-In-Wonder installation CD 180-V01084-100, which came with one of the 9000-series ATI AIW Radeon AGP cards, and features ATI MMC 8.8 and the Catalyst drivers of that era. This install CD was tested with an ATI AIW 9200 and an ATI AIW 9600 cards, and found to work perfectly.

This is a multi-part RAR file containing an ISO image.
If you're not sure what to do with the attached RAR files, then read this help post.

Simply burn the ISO to a CD-R or CD-RW -- not a DVD -- using ImgBurn.
Or as an alternative method, mount the ISO as virtual CD drive, using Gizmo Drive, Magic ISO or Daemon Lite.


Attached Files
File Type: rar ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).part01.rar (32.00 MB, 1028 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).part02.rar (32.00 MB, 800 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).part03.rar (32.00 MB, 774 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).part04.rar (32.00 MB, 745 downloads)
File Type: rar ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).part05.rar (32.00 MB, 746 downloads)
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File Type: rar ATI All-In-Wonder Setup (180-V01084-100).part14.rar (19.32 MB, 702 downloads)

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