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dinkleberg 08-15-2016 02:53 AM

Hauppauge video capture is lossless?
 
I have a Hauppauge PVR-150 card which I am using with VCR to capture VHS. I want to make sure it is capping losslessly and not encoding at all. VVCR gives these stats post-capture:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/imag.../2LxA06x-1.png

here is mediainfo:

Code:

Format                                  : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                          : OpenDML
File size                                : 1.93 GiB
Duration                                : 1mn 42s
Overall bit rate                        : 161 Mbps

Video
ID                                      : 0
Format                                  : YUV
Codec ID                                : YUY2
Codec ID/Info                            : YUV 4:2:2 as for UYVY but with different component ordering within the u_int32 macropixel
Duration                                : 1mn 38s
Bit rate                                : 166 Mbps
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                  : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                    : 3:2
Frame rate                              : 29.970 fps
Standard                                : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                      : 4:2:2
Compression mode                        : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                      : 16.000
Stream size                              : 1.91 GiB (99%)

Audio
ID                                      : 1
Format                                  : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                : 1
Duration                                : 1mn 42s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                              : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Delay relative to video                  : 8ms
Stream size                              : 17.3 MiB (1%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                    : 499 ms (14.96 video frames)


msgohan 08-15-2016 08:16 PM

There is no way to capture lossless YUY2 (4:2:2) with this card. The driver outputs uncompressed 4:2:0 in a proprietary pixel format, which is then upsampled to 4:2:2 in the background. A tool was released to convert the proprietary format into regular YV12, if you bypass Hauppauge's own converter.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=103277

dinkleberg 08-15-2016 09:50 PM

what card should I buy to replace it? I just happened to have it laying around.

lordsmurf 08-16-2016 10:56 AM

The Hauppauge PVR-150 is an MPEG hardware capture card (4:2:0), and a flawed one at that. The 250 and 350 were far better, if you wanted an MPEG capture card.

msgohan is accurate.

An ATI AIW system based on WinXP, is better. And suggested.
If you want Win Vista/7/8/10 capable cards, then your options are fewer, but something like the ATI 600 would work.

Hmmm.... time for a new sticky.

dinkleberg 08-16-2016 04:49 PM

I have 32bit XP and open PCI/PCIE slots. I will throw the Huappauge in the garbage where it belongs.

ATI Wonder 550 is this a good card?

Does it matter USB vs PCI?

Thanks everyone.

lordsmurf 08-26-2016 12:19 AM

The major issue with the 150 was illegal IRE and audio distortion. It simply f'd up video in a major way. This wasn't an error that affected every card, just most of them (90%+). They must have replaced a chip on the board early on, after initial production. I actually have one of the few that didn't suffer this fate.

USB vs. PCI doesn't matter as much as the quality hardware.


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