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01-10-2019, 06:03 AM
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Hi. I'm new here at the forum and trying to learn from all the great threads here.

I have read a lot about this topic here and I would like to confirm if I have learned it correctly:

1. For "extracting"a video from a miniDV tape, I would just have to connect a camera with a firewire cable to a computer, right? Well, I still have some questions:
- Should I connect the camera with firewire or capture the video through RCA (Camera + ATI card)? I believe that with firewire the quality will be better, right?
- I don't have a miniDV camera anymore. Which model would you suggest? Or would you suggest an adaptor to use a VCR?
- If I use a miniDV camera, can I use a modern mac computer or should I have to use WindowsXP to do it?

2. About VHS-C, which adaptor would you recommend buying? What should I look for when I buy one?

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The composite (yellow wire, often confused with RCA audio) connection loses quality.

For consumer camcorders, the lens/CCD/CMOS often didn't actually resolve true 720x480 details, and you're perfectly fine capturing it lossless over s-video. The native DV files are smaller, so the only downside of this method is space.

But transferring the file over Firewire is preferred by most users -- with the main caveat being the ability to use Firewire. It can be a PITA to add a Firewire card, and laptops almost never have the ports.

MiniDV works fine on Mac, as Mac SD was a DV workflow. Not capture/converting, mostly to "make movies" (and that includes transferring the source DV files from DV tapes).

There is no adapter to use a MiniDV tape in a VHS VCR. There were pro combo decks that accepted DV, mostly JVC, and those were terrible for DV (noting the S-VHS VCR with line TBC was excellent).

For VHS-C, only use the metal adapters from JVC/Panasonic, like the C-P6U or C-P7U.
This should be comparable: https://www.amazon.com/VHS-C-Video-C...language=en_US

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So I would need a Minidv camera to transfer over firewire, right? Which model would uou recommend?
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I've always liked the Canon ZR and Elura series, and mostly use the Elura for playback.

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I don't know if Lordsmurf will second this, but I've had excellent results with a MiniDV Sony Video Walkman, model GV-D1000. The GV-D800 has been equally good with 8mm/Hi8, but I prefer analog capture over FireWire with DV compression for the latter model.
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Quote:
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For VHS-C, only use the metal adapters from JVC/Panasonic, like the C-P6U or C-P7U.
This should be comparable: https://www.amazon.com/VHS-C-Video-C...language=en_US
From the look on that link, those are the cheaper generic adapters, which are not as nice and sturdily made as the C-P6/7U (or rebranded versions), or the Panasonic VW-TCA7*.

We got a few of those, one of the customer pictures have the exact same logo as some of them even. They work ok, but you have to make sure when you insert a cassette that the guides that hold the tape out are fully in place, they can sometimes fail to go all the way up by themselves.
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Agree the the various Sony Video Walkmen work well for both MiniDV and for Video8/Hi8/D8 tapes. There are several variants (e.g., with and without build-in monitors and for MiniDV and 8mm-size tapes). The down side is on today's market they tend to be more scarce and much more costly than used camcorders.

I've also used Canon MiniDV camcorders with success. A note: tapes recorded at LP speed can be problematic if played in a different machine than the one that made the recording.

Although IEEE1394 (aka Firewire and iLink) was supposed to be hot swapable, I wouldn't count on it. I have read numerous reports of firewire ports being fried attempting a hot swap. Safer to make all connections with systems powered down.
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