Video capture project, what direction is best? + Proc amp vs TBC + Best capture card?
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A more detailed explanation is available here: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...time-base.html Also included there are suggested TBC models, such as the AVT-8710 or TBC-1000. A proc amp is shorthand video slang for a "color processor/amplifier" -- a piece of hardware that adjusts the color values of analog video, using a mix of analog and digital filtering. To the layman, this means it will alter the contrast, brightness, tint, saturation and sharpness, much like a standard television. However, since proc amps are largely considered professional gear, the adjustments are named with technically accurate video jargon: luma, chroma, IRE, gamma, phase, level, coring, and similar terms. The available adjustments, and terms used, varies from unit to unit. Examples of good proc amps include the Elite Video BVP-4 and BVP-4 Plus, and the SignVideo PA-100. Generally speaking, a TBC and a proc amp are not at all the same. However, there are TBCs that include full or partial proc amps. The higher end broadcast TBCs, such as a Leitch (and the former Digital Processing Systems) often contain great proc amps, comparable to the standalone Vidicraft gear of the 1980s-1990s. The DPS-200, for example, had a decent proc amp. However, the TBC was expensive, huge, hot, and tended to not work as well with VHS as the more modern TBCs engineered for that source. The AVT-8710 (and CTB-100, plus any other Cypress re-labeled TBC), includes a very mild/weak proc amp control. It's not at all very powerful, but it you only want tiny adjustments, it serves that function. The extra inclusion of proc amp controls on some TBCs often leads to confusion among novice users of the hardware, so I can understand the question. Quote:
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The ATI All In Wonder Radeon 7500 (AGP) cards are excellent, and highly suggested. You can capture uncompressed or lossless AVI, as well as MPEG-2 at both DVD-Video and the larger sub-broadcast bitrates. Canopus Let's Edit RT+ is a pretty outdated and somewhat limited sub-NLE editor. It's missing quite a few features expected from a full NLE suite, and I don't believe it natively had any sort of MPEG-2 export, unless you managed to buy Procoder Express (no longer available, no longer sold). It would probably also no work beyond Windows XP, and faster/newer non-XP systems are what we suggest for editing and encoding. Only keep the older/slower XP systems for the capturing tasks. Only use it to encode if you're really patient and have few encoding/editing needs. In 2011, you'd probably do better with Adobe Premiere Elements for $76 from Amazon (better deal than Adobe.com!). To give further advice on what editing program would be best, I'd have to know more about what you're doing. Somebody simply converting tape to DVD will not get the same advice as somebody who wants to capture their videos, and then edit a masterpiece (i.e., "best of" videos, adding special effects, etc). Or if you want to encode for Youtube or a website, as opposed to standard DVD-Video DVDs.
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Thanks for the reply. I have run into a snag :mad: my mobo does not have an AGP slot, so I cannot use the AIW 7500. From reading all the other posts, I am guessing my next choice would be the 600 USB- would that be correct? Again, my first priority is to capture the tapes to my hard drive(at the best possible format dvi?)
I Would then like to have the ability to edit/create Dvd's as needed. I have about 125 VHS tapes, but I also have a canon hv20 HD mini dv cam with about 30 or so tapes (not sure if that will make a difference?). What about a BM intensity pro. Would that be a better option with my equipment and objective? I think it's starting to make sense, but I still can't decide on my best capture hardware. Thanks, rappy |
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I think you're almost there. I'd consider modifying the XP system to be powered by the already-owned ATI All In Wonder card. Or failing that, the ATI 600 USB is a great little card -- I use mine regularly for VHS to Huffyuv AVI in VirtualDub. Moving on to the last post here from you: Quote:
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Do you have any recomendations on a mobo that would work well with my socket 775 CPU? I also have modern day SATA hard drives. Rappy |
Ok. Does anyone have a suggestion for a mobo? I have a Q6600 CPU with newer 3Gb/s hard drives. My power supply is 24 pin (but I think you can use it on a 20 pin?). I have found this on eBay- ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA Socket 775 Motherboard w/ AGP 8x??? Looks like this got decent reviews on Newegg when it was available. If anyone has one they are willing to sell, I would entertain an offer. My tbc and proc amp arrived today. I just need the mobo and I can begin testing!
As far as editing, it would be just on DVD or kept on my hard drive. Look forward to your comments! Rappy |
UPDATE- well I received my avt 8710 & sign video proc amp. Proc amp works nice, but I think I received a defective 8710 :mad: I am getting the blurry screen in the menu screen on my JVC 9900 (mentioned in another thread). I will return it tomorrow and try again. If that doesn't work- well not sure what other product to get? I also ordered the mobo mentioned in post #5. I hope that plays nice with my other equipment. Some new questions-
What are the best settings for my JVC hr-s9900u? What is the simplest way to "calibrate" my monitor? When I capture, I will be using an ASUS vh242? Thx. |
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Sorry but I do not have my digi cam but here is some of the info: Ic6 - LTB101 v2.1 S1011 Ic1 - NX? Ic3 & 4 - AVERLOGIC. -AL440B-24-PBF MS943 0950 Sorry but that's I can come up with. I guess poor lighting huh? |
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Geeks tends to be a great place for older CPUs and motherboards -- better than eBay. Thanks for adding your information on the AVT-8710 TBC issue. That is helpful. :thumb: |
Kpmedia- not sure what you mean by "use the board that was sent with the card.."? The only motherboard I have is a socket 775 without an AGP slot. I just picked up a mobo from eBay. I'll see how it works, and go from there. Stay tuned.
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Seems I made a mistake! There's been several new members lately with similar topics, and I had mistaken you for somebody else -- somebody that had purchased an ATI AIW card + motherboard combo. That's clearly not the case. You had a card, but no motherboard (neither with the card, nor already in hand).
Buying a new motherboard should be the answer, yes. Generally speaking, I prefer to buy new/refurb motherboards from Geeks.com, but sometime you'll find a good non-abused board available on eBay. Hopefully you'll land a good board. Once you have it, and have "rehardwared" (yes, a made up word!) your computer, let us know how you've fared. |
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