Best ATI capture card? TV Wonder 600 vs. 650?

[sanlyn]

The 7500 looks complete and is one of the best capture cards made. It is the same 64GB model that I and many others have used for years.

[Mazufa]

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Originally Posted by sanlyn

The 7500 looks complete and is one of the best capture cards made. It is the same 64GB model that I and many others have used for years.

I buy a 7500 capture card hardly I will regret it Are you also using Windows XP? If so, what version?

What motherboard and processor do you recommend to me?

[sanlyn]

I have 2 Xp machines home-built, one with old AMD dual-core CPU (built in 2005) and one with an Intel i5 CPU (2007). They are both XP/Sp3. One has a 7500 AGP, other has a 9600XT AGP.

I have no idea where to find an AGP motherboard. Obviously used is the best source, but I see sometimes that new is available. Check the forum marketplace section. Also, lordsmurf has posted recommendations based on computers he has built or has heard about. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...html#post51474

[Mazufa]

I'm trying to find the motherboard on the AGP bus primarily from Finland. I need an Ati all-in-Wonder 7500 AGP capture card to buy from the United States, and pay for expensive mail and import charges. But if I can't find an AGL motherboard in Finland then I buy it from the United States.

My friend may have an AGP motherboard here in Finland.

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I have now bought Ati all-in-wonder 7500 AGP capture device! I got myself now a good of VHS capture device I am satisfied! It is also brand new and it works well and for a long time.

I'm really happy and because I found a completely new ATI All-In-Wonder 7500 AGP capture device.

I want to thank you for helping me find a good hijacking device!

[sanlyn]

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Originally Posted by Mazufa

I have now bought Ati all-in-wonder 7500 AGP capture device! I got myself now a good of VHS capture device I am satisfied! It is also brand new and it works well and for a long time.

I'm really happy and because I found a completely new ATI All-In-Wonder 7500 AGP capture device.

Someone has posted information about AGP motherboards that might be useful for you.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/comp...html#post60546

[Mazufa]

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Originally Posted by sanlyn

Someone has posted information about AGP motherboards that might be useful for you.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/comp...html#post60546

Thank you Sanlyn for taking care of that is for me. I have asked acquaintances from one motherboard, processor, and other components necessary to build a AGP väyläisen computer. I also forwarded this article to him and he looks at me on the basis of it I believe that I will now have a really good digitalization computer. I am happy when I found Ebay completely new ATI All-In-Wonder 7500 capture device which is sealed in a factory package. Thank you again for helping me!

I still have to use a google translator and it didn't become a perfect translation. I'm trying to learn English but can not learn in an instant I speak only Finnish language fluently.

[sanlyn]

You communicate very well .

[Mazufa]

Yes. I am pretty much a computer on a daily basis because I do a lot of work on them. Isn't there anything wrong with the answer? I always respond immediately if the matter is clear.

[Ralpphilz]

Hi Sanlyn,
I've been reading your posts over and over regarding the ATV AIW. I did some research, and I found this website that has a list of collections of ATI video cards. Based on your guidelines, I assume the ATI AIW 9XXX series are excellent for digitalizing purpose?
I found this on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-All-in-...YAAOSw7RJeZ7mu

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-All-In-...wAAOSw5jleern-

https://www.ebay.com/p/14026441312?iid=264248117459 (7500)

I'm looking forwards to hearing some suggestions between the 9800, 9800pro and 7500. Furthermore, my current version of windows is 7 (Dell desktop).
Thank you for your time.

[sanlyn]

You can't go wrong with any of the AIW's mentioned. The 7500 AGP has been a favorite for a long time, but the others are no slouches. However --

- They have proprietary connection dongles that must be used for connection between your input components and your monitor. The dongles differ for for the 7500 and 9xxx models. They are useless without the component.

- XP is required. No AIW AGP or PCI\PCie has drivers for any OS later than XP.

- They don't require hot systems. They will work with as little as 1GB RAM and single-core processors.

[Ralpphilz]

Thank you Sanlyn for the info. Another question is, according to what I read, the 7500 is known to have the theatre rage 100 vs. the 9xxx models that have the theatre rage 200. Some folks prefer the rage 200 over the rage 100. Would you mind letting me know what you think? I'm looking for a capture card to best retain all fine picture details plus color gamut. Thanks for your time.

[sanlyn]

I have used 2 AIW AGP's, the 7500 since 2002 and the 9600XT since 2004. I can't tell the difference in results between the two, except that for HD playback the 9600XT is newer and gives smoother HD playback response with twice the RAM of the 7500. AS far as capture goes, those two AGP's were the most popular of the AIW's. I believe lordsmurf still favors the 7500, maybe he'll chime in.

The two main chips are different, but differences in performance have more to do with chip implementation. I've seen offshoots from other brands back-then that used either chip but didn't get such a great reception. I remember the reviews when the 7500 and 9600XT came out, they were both greeted with rave reviews for capture. But as I said, every AIW was noted for extremely competetive capture performance compared with cards at several times their price. I don't know of any "modern" cards that can outperform them for capture.

[Ralpphilz]

I sent him PM three times. He is a busy person. I got a 29-pin connecting cable that is supposed to be compatible with the 9600XT. I am not sure though. I'm trying to attach a picture of it here so you can take a look at it. But i can't seem to find any tool to let me do that. So, I uploaded the picture to my google drive. If you don't mind, can you download the picture and take a look at it and tell me if the cable is the appropriate one for the 9600 XT please? I'd appreciate your time.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tXM...w?usp=drivesdk

[BW37]

Required cables for a AIW 9600:

The very hard to find main output cable with required VGA monitor connector(s) and optional audio loopback cable (black 3.5mm stereo plug)
AIW9600_output_squid.jpg

Back of card. (Note the lack of either VGA or DVI outputs.)

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The one possible drawback of the 9600 cards is the lack of DVI support. It's more of a preference than a problem but needs to be considered.


Required and readily available purple A/V inputs cable/block
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That eBay listing

And just to be clear, a computer/motherboard with AGP graphics slot is required. That's often a whole discussion in itself.

BW

PS: Re: uploading/attaching attachments/images is discussed here
However, I think it is missing the step of "clicking" on the paperclip icon after going "advanced".