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DVD Media Quality
Not all media is
good. Buying a good disc is not a simple matter of using a
"name brand" disc, or paying for the most
expensive disc on the shelf. With the continued influx of
cheaply-made Chinese, Malaysian, Korean, and Hong Kong media
(not to mention a few "bulk-quality" Taiwanese
companies), about half or more of all media is inferior
quality. Bad discs are a complete waste of time and money.
This review/guide is meant to
shed some light on who manufactures and brands good and not-so-good quality DVD media. Use this list as an assistant when selecting what media
to buy and use. It shows what generally works as the
best media. Individual results may very, depending on the
burner and how the media chooses to cooperate, though
typically not by much.
While some cheap media may work for you, it's a gamble that
often loses. Try to use 1st class media, maybe 2nd
class if the situation must budget tightly. Do yourself a
big favor and just outright avoid 3rd class media, if at all possible.
Be sure to read the other
media guides and reviews, if you want to fully
understand this complex topic.
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USA Deals:
Branded
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- $23
- Verbatim
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- $24
- Verbatim DVD-R 16x 100-pack
- $25
- JVC Taiyo
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- $26
- JVC Taiyo
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- $33
- JVC Taiyo
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Inkjet-Printable DVDs:
- $29
- JVC Taiyo
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- $34
- Verbatim DVD-R 16x 100-pack
- $35
- JVC Taiyo
Yuden Premium DVD-R 8x 100-pack
- $56
- JVC Taiyo
Yuden Value DVD-R 8x 200-pack
DVD+R DL double-layer
blanks:
- $28
- Verbatim
DVD+R DL 20-pack
LightScribe DVDs
- $19
- Verbatim Colors DVD-R 16x 25-pack
Canada Deals:
Branded
blank DVDs:
- $33
- Verbatim
DVD+R 16x 100-pack
- $38
- Verbatim
DVD+R 16x 100-pack
DVD+R DL double-layer blanks:
- $37
- Verbatim
DVD+R DL 20-pack
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and FutureShop.ca
UK and Europe Deals:
Branded
blank DVDs:
- £18
- Verbatim DVD-R 16x 100-pack
- £18
- Verbatim
DVD+R 16x 100-pack
- £22
- Sony
DVD+R 16x 100-pack
- £29
- Sony
DVD-R 16x 100-pack
DVD+R DL double-layer
blanks:
- £8
- Verbatim
DVD+R DL 8x 10-pack
Inkjet-Printable DVDs:
- £20
- Verbatim
DVD+R DL 8x 25-pack
Check out the forum for
more DVD sales and weekly DVD deals, including seasonal holiday
sales.
Updated July 2010.
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What
are the Best Blank DVDs?
Not everybody has the time or the need to learn about media.
If you're simply after the quick advice on what discs will
almost always work the best in any DVD player or DVD burner,
then get one of these:
1. Verbatim DVD-R, DVD+R or DVD+R DL, made in India, UAE,
Singapore or Taiwan. (Do not buy the "Life Series"
or "Value Series" discs.) Good
Version is getting harder to find.
2. JVC Taiyo Yuden DVD-R or DVD+R, from an authorized dealer
only. Our list to the left only included authorized dealers.
3. Sony DVD-R or DVD+R, made in Taiwan only. These are
getting harder to find.
Verbatim DVD-R, Verbatim DVD+R and Verbatim DVD+R
Double-Layer discs are our
top suggestions for the ultimate in disc quality, as
Mitsubishi-made media have been a consistent high-quality
performer since 2001. JVC Taiyo Yuden media is an excellent
second choice.
Gold discs ARE NOT the best discs!
Gold discs have lousy reflectivity, and the
dye quality found on these blanks simply
does not burn well in our tests (or the
tests of others). It's a waste of money for
mediocre media.
Who
Really Makes the Disc?
Realize that most media is
produced by a relatively small number of factories,
located in several different places. These factories
are mostly present in Taiwan, Japan, Singapore,
Malaysia, China and India. There are more, but those
are the largest ones. The best media generally comes
from Japan, Taiwan and Singapore. The worst
typically comes from China and Malaysia.
Understand that the blank disc brand
means almost nothing. Apple is a great brand, but
they do not make their own discs, instead
outsourcing to a company like Mitsubishi Chemicals.
Common companies like Memorex, Maxell and Imation
all outsource to media vendors.
It is the media ID
that is important, as it reveals the disc
manufacturer. Unfortunately, this is not
written on packaging or anywhere else. Companies
want consumers to be oblivious to this sort of
behind-the-scenes information.
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To learn the
media ID code, a blank disc must be put into
a computer DVD burner drive and the ID read
by a special utility. Some burning software
reads the code, such as ImgBurn. You can download
freeware media ID tools in our forum.
Blank
DVD Quality Rankings, sorted by DVD Manufacturer (Not
Brand)
The following information is arranged in three groups. Some companies may have listings in different classes
because quality is better/worse in other disc formats. The
"media ID" column is an example of media codes
available from that manufacturer, it is not supposed to be a
complete list of all available codes, and some codes have
been abbreviated for space.
1st Class Media
(Excellent Archival Media):
Almost
flawless burns with 95-100% reliable results. These
discs are suited for pretty much anything. They will usually
serve as excellent archival quality media, as well as video
masters.
| MANUFACTURER |
EXAMPLE
MEDIA
IDs |
COUNTRY |
FORMAT |
NOTES |
| Pioneer |
PVC001001,
PVC001002, PVCW00 |
Japan |
DVD-R,
DVD-RW |
PVC
stopped making media in 2003 |
| Mitsubishi
Chemicals, Mitsubishi-Kagaku Media, Verbatim |
MCC00RG20,
MCC01RG20, MCC02RG20, MCC03RG20, MCC002, MCC003,
MCC004, MCC00RW, MCC01RW, MCCA01, MKMA02, MKM001,
MKM003 |
Singapore,
Taiwan, India, United Arab Emirates (UAE) |
DVD-R,
DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL, DVD-R DL |
some production
outsourcing, non-issue |
| JVC
Taiyo
Yuden |
TYG01,
TYG02, TYG03, YUDEN000T02, YUDEN000T03 |
Japan |
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| Hitachi
Maxell |
MXLRG01,
MXLRG02, MXLRG03, MXLRG04, MAXELL001, MAXELL002,
MAXELL003 |
Japan |
DVD-R,
DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM |
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| Sony
(Daxon) |
SONY04D1,
SONY08D1, SONY16D1, SONYD21, SONYD11, SONYS11, |
Taiwan,
Japan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW |
production
outsourcing, non-issue |
| TDK |
TDKG02,
TTG01, TTG02, TTH01, TTH02, TDK501, TDK502, TDK001,
TDK002, TDK003 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD-RW, DVD+R |
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2nd Class Media (Okay
or Passable Discs):
Mixed quality
media,
average 75-90% of discs tend to be good. These discs are not suggested for archival data or
video masters. These are best suited for data that can be
replaced easily, such as secondary backups or data/video
distribution. In bulk, can often be purchased at low prices.
| MANUFACTURER |
EXAMPLE
MEDIA
IDs |
COUNTRY |
FORMAT |
NOTES |
| Ricoh,
Ritek |
RICOHJPND00,
RICOHJPNR00, RICOHJPNR01, RICOHJPNR02, RICOHJPNR03,
RICOHJPNW01, RICOHJPNW11, RICOHJPNW21 and others |
Taiwan,
Japan |
DVD+R,
DVD+RW, DVD+R DL |
outsourced
media ID in recent years |
| Prodisc
Media |
PRODISCS03,
PRODISCS04, PRODISCF01, PRODISCF02, PRODISCR01,
PRODISCR02, PRODISCR03, PRODISCR04. PRODISCG02,
PRODISCW02 and others |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
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| Daxon
(Acer+BenQ) |
DAXON008S,
DAXON016S, DAXONAZ1, DAXONAZ2, DAXONAZ3, DAXOND42 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R, DVD+RW |
similar
to Sony media |
Sony
(Daxon),
Sony (Lead Data) |
SONY16D1 |
Malaysia
Daxon, Taiwan LeadData |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
inferior
to Taiwan-Daxon discs, LeadData is unbranded |
| Ritek |
RITEKG01,
RITEKG03, RITEKG04, RITEKG05, RITEKW01, RITEKW04,
RITEK000, RITEKR01, RITEKR02, RITEKR03,
RITEKR04, RITEKF1, RITEKD01 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R
DL |
reflectivity
and degradation concerns, DL has layer break issues |
| Prodisc,
Ritek, CMC, others |
FUJIFILM02,
FUJIFILM03 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
outsourced
media ID |
| CMC
Magnetics |
CMCMAGD01,
CMCMAGE01, CMCMAGF01, CMCMAGM01, CMCMAGR01, CMCMAGAE1,
CMCMAGAF1, CMCMAGAM3, CMC00RG20, CMC00RG30, CMCMAG,
CMCW02, CMCW03, CMCMAGW01 |
Taiwan |
DVD+R,
DVD-R,
DVD-RW, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL |
wide
quality variance |
| Optodisc |
OPTODISCK001,
OPTODISCR004, OPTODISCR008, OPTODISCR016,
OPTODISCW002, OPTODISCW004 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD-RW |
no
longer made |
| CMC
Magnetics |
PHILIPSCD2,
PHILIPS010, PHILIPS041, PHILIPSC08, PHILIPSC16,
PHILIPSRW |
Taiwan |
DVD+R,
DVD+RW, DVD+R DL |
outsourced
media ID |
| LeadData |
LEADDATA01,
LEADDATA, LD01, LD, LDS03, LDA02 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
|
| Moser
Baer |
MBI,
MBIPG101R03, MBIPG101R04, MBIPG101W03,
MBIPG101W04, MBI01RG20,
MBI03RG40 |
India |
DVD-R,
DVD+R, DVD+RW |
poor
firmware support, some of the discs are similar to MCC |
| Gigastorage |
GSC001,
GSC002, GSC003, GSC502 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
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| Infodisc
Media |
INFODISCA01,
INFODISCA10, INFODISCR20, INFODISCR01 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R, DVD+RW |
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3rd Class Media (Cheap Unreliable Junk
Discs):
Quality can be very questionable, sometimes less than 50%
of a spindle is usable. Some of these discs serve no
other purpose aside from filling our landfills. These are discs best suited for small burns
(under 2GB of data). Be prepared for failed burns. Also be
prepared for various DVD-ROMs and players to not see the
disc or freeze up because the player cannot read it very
well (not the same as a bad burn). Many of these are known
for sham marketing ("archival grade" and whatnot)
and can actually cost more than better-classed media. A lot
of these discs are not even made anymore, this information
is largely historical.
| MANUFACTURER |
EXAMPLE
MEDIA
IDs |
COUNTRY |
FORMAT |
NOTES |
| Must
Tech |
MUST001,
MUST003 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R |
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| Samsung/BeAll |
BEALLG00001,
BEALLG40001, BEALL000P40, BEALL000PG0 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
degradation
concerns |
| MAM-America,
MAM-Europe |
MAM4XG02,
MAM8XG01 |
USA,
Europe |
DVD-R |
remnants
of Mitsui Media |
| Ul
Tran Technology |
ONIDTECH |
Taiwan |
DVD-R |
no
longer made |
| Princo |
PRINCO |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD-RW |
|
| InfoMedia |
INFOMER20,
INFOMER30, INFOMEDIAT01 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL |
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| Optodisc
Media |
OPTODISCP01,
OPTODISCP02, OPTODISCP04, OPTODISCR04, OPTODISCR08 |
Taiwan |
DVD+R,
DVD-RW |
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| Daxon
(Acer+BenQ) |
DAXONAZ1,
DAXONAZ2 |
Malaysia |
DVD+R |
inferior
to Taiwan |
| 3A
Media |
POMS3A,
3AM0 |
Austria |
DVD-R |
poor
firmware support |
| Nanya
Tech |
NANYACLX,
NANYAA01 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
|
| Plasmon
Tech |
PLASMON1C01 |
Europe |
DVD-R |
|
| Advanced
Media Ltd |
AML,
AML001, AML002 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R |
|
| Jilin Qingda |
LONGTEN001,
LONGTEN002 |
China |
DVD-R |
|
| Yi Jhan
Tech |
YIJHAN001 |
Taiwan |
DVD-R |
|
| Anwell |
AN31,
AN32, AN33, AN35, ANWELL |
China |
DVD-R |
see
note ** |
| Infosmart |
INFOSMART01,
ISO001, ISO002 |
China,
Hong Kong |
DVD-R,
DVD+R |
infamous
for fake media |
| SKC |
SKCCOLTD |
Korea |
DVD-R |
|
| Interaxia
AG |
VANGUARD,
VDSPMSAB01, VDSPSAB |
Taiwan |
DVD-R |
|
| Ume
Disc Tech |
UME001 |
Hong
Kong |
DVD-R |
|
| WealthFair
Investments |
WFKA11 |
China |
DVD-R |
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Grading
Notes
- Grading
criteria. The review list presented here is a delicate
balance between the adjacent concepts of usability and
potential burn quality. The ability of the disc to burn in a
wide range of burners and DVD recorders determines a coaster
count. However, because of disc/drive incompatibility issues
that exist (read the advanced concepts guide), potential
quality on a perfect disc/drive combination is also
considered. Finally, longevity and playability/reflectivity
is taken into consideration. This results in the overall
grade. This guide is admittedly harsh when it comes to the
usability factor, but it need be remembered that this was
written to assist the masses, so a disc with generally
poorer disc/drive compatibility will rate lower. If you want
specific suggestions for your make/model of drive, ask for
advice in our forum.
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What do the % numbers mean?
This list is constructed from many tests on many burners
from a handful of experienced people that use a lot of
media, and has been ongoing since 2001. These numbers reflect
the number of discs in a spindle that will give good
results. For example, out of a 100 spindle of media, 1st
class discs may kick out a few bad discs (0% to 5% of the
media may have playback imperfections or be outright bad
burns). The 2nd class media may have anywhere from a dozen
to a half-spindle of
duds. And the 3rd class stuff can be pure trash, with most
discs ending up in the local landfill. These
are mean averages too,
simple statistics math, meaning best tests and worst tests
are discarded, and the middle range of tests is the basis
for these numbers. You may sometimes find the rare instance
where a CMC spindle will be perfect and a Taiyo Yuden
spindle will be completely flawed, but those times are the
exception rather than the rule (and are not part of a mean
average).
- Can media ever change class?
Sure. But it rarely happens. It is not a quick move either, these
things take much time and many tests. SONY, RITEK, CMC,
DAXON and
LEADDATA have changed grades in the past. Media cannot
change quality overnight or even in a few weeks/months.
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Testing procedures:
Burns are subject to playability/reflectivity tests (usage
tests), as well as software verification. Test equipment is
under controlled hardware/software environments, and
performed by knowledgeable individuals, to eliminate
user variables. Burns are at least 4GB or more to test the
entire length of the media.
- Anwell Notes:
Anwell
Technologies does not make media. Anwell is a production
equipment supplier that sells blank DVD media creation
technology to media manufacturers. By default, an ANWELL
"test code" or "test ID" is on the
stamper. Anwell is often blamed for making shoddy media, but
in reality, it's the work of a lazy media manufacturer who
bought Anwell production supplies. As with all other
low-quality media of dubious origins, the likely offender is
Infosmart, or some other small Chinese or Hong Kong company.
Fake
DVD Media ID Guide
Luckily, it does not happen often, but it does happen
often enough to be a major annoyance to media buyers
everywhere. Most fake media comes from Hong Kong, as a
general rule. Fake media tends to float around Europe and
Asia more than it does the USA. Fake media is normally
sold in street markets, on eBay and online. Major brand name
media sold in stores is probably never going to be fake.
Faking more or less tapered off in 2008-2009, so we've not
seen as much in recent years as it had been in the past. Be
wary of fakes, but know that they're just not as common
anymore. Fake media mostly sold well because they could
undercut legitimate brands, but still turn a profit. With
the worldwide recession chopping heavily into profits these
pat few years, fakes have been squeezed out, the profit
margins are too slim to be worthwhile, with many of the
fakers disappearing. The falling dollar has kept many of
them out of North America, too.
| MEDIA
ID |
FAKER |
DATE |
NOTES |
| TYG02 |
Infosmart,
Optodisc,
MAM-America,
MAM-Europe |
2005-
2007 |
The
fakes are rumored to be for "improved 8x media
detection" but low quality media is low quality,
regardless of the media ID. These were found worldwide.
|
| MCC02RG20,
MCC003 |
Infosmart |
2005-
2007 |
Mostly
seen in Europe, not so much in USA. |
| TTG02,
TTH01, TTH02 |
MAM-America,
MAM-Europe |
2005 |
These are apparently
"legal" fakes made by Mitsui, with permission by
TDK to use the code. However the media is quite poor, not
true TDK media. |
| MXLRG01 |
Infosmart |
2002-
2003 |
One
of the first "anonymous" fake discs. |
| Pioneer
brand DVD-R |
LeadData,
Ritek |
2003 |
Pioneer's PVC quit manufacturing blanks
in 2003 (PVC media codes). LeadData and Ritek tried to sell
their PIODATA and PIO branded blanks under the
"Pioneer" brand name, but that was misleading.
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| TDKG02 |
Princo |
2001-
2002 |
They
wanted to
"improve 2x writing" on the 1x write strategy
media, as well as insure drives would see the media (not all
firmware at the time had PRINCO as a valid media code).
Princo admitted to this faking, never tried to hide
it, though some resellers tried to pawn off the media
as legitimate TDK. |
| SONY |
Unknown |
2003 |
"SONY" is not a valid media
ID used by Sony discs. |
| RITEKG03,
RITEKG04 |
Ritek |
2004 |
This was supposedly faked
in 2004. However, it is the opinion of this author that it
was just a lame cover story by RITEK for providing subpar
quality media, as even the "legit" media performed
poorly at the time.
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DVD Branding Data
Although this will change on an annual basis, the
following brands are known to use the following media makers
for their outsourced discs. Some companies prefer dollars
over quality, so be careful. Also be especially careful of
"house brands" or no-names. If you end up with an
unfavorable media ID, do not burn a test, just take it back
for a refund and take your business elsewhere. Some stores have horrible return policies too, so
beware.
| Brand |
Manufacturers:
Recent Reports (2009-2010) |
Manufacturers:
Historical Listing (2001-2008) |
| Accu |
|
LeadData |
| Americal |
|
Ritek,
Princo, LeadData |
| Apple |
|
Mitsubishi ,
Maxell |
| Arita |
|
Ritek,
Ricoh |
| BenQ |
|
Daxon,
Fujifilm |
| Bulkpaq |
|
FakeMCC,
Infosmart, CMC, Princo |
| CompUSA |
|
Princo,
UME Disc, AML,
Optodisc |
| Datawrite |
|
MCC,
Ritek,
CMC, Princo, Prodisc, Anwell |
| DupEZ |
|
LeadData |
| Dynex |
|
Ricoh |
| Emtec |
|
Ricoh,
FakeTY,
Interaxia AG |
| ESA |
|
CMC |
| Esbuy |
|
Ritek,
LeadData, FAKES |
| Fuji |
|
Prodisc,
Fujifilm, Mitsubishi(-RW), Daxon, Taiyo
Yuden, Ricoh, Ritek |
| Fuji
(DVD+R DL) |
|
Ritek,
Ricoh, CMC |
| GQ,
Great Quality |
LeadData |
Sony,
Princo, Ritek, LeadData, Ume
Disc, Infodisc |
| HP |
CMC |
CMC,
Ricoh, Mitsubishi, Fujifilm |
| Hyundai |
|
FakeMXL,
Infosmart |
| Imation |
Ritek,
CMC |
Optodisc,
CMC, Mitsubishi, Ritek, Ritek, Fujifilm, Ricoh, Moser Baer |
| Intenso |
|
Mitsubishi |
| Iomega |
|
Prodisc |
| JVC |
Taiyo
Yuden |
Wealthfair
Investments |
| KHypermedia |
|
CMC,
FakeMCC, TDK |
| Kodak |
|
MAM-America |
| Linkyo |
Taiyo
Yuden |
|
| LiquidVideo |
|
Optodisc |
| Magnavox |
|
CMC |
| Matrix |
|
Longten,
Yi Jhan Tech, Must |
| Maxell |
Ritek,
CMC |
Maxell,
Ritek, CMC, Prodisc, Ricoh,
Taiyo Yuden |
| ME |
|
Gigastorage |
| Memorex |
CMC |
CMC,
Ritek, Moser Baer, Mitsubishi, Prodisc, Ricoh,
Infodisc, Moser Baer |
| Mirror |
|
Anwell,
Onidtech, Princo |
| MMore |
|
Moser
Baer |
| MultiLaser |
|
Fakes |
| Nexxtech |
|
UME
Disc, Adv Media Ltd, Mitsubishi,
CMC |
| Nipponic |
|
Interaxia
AG |
| Octron |
|
Ritek |
| Office
Depot |
Ritek |
Ritek |
| OfficeMax |
Ritek |
Princo |
| Optodisc |
|
Optodisc |
| Panasonic |
|
Taiyo
Yuden |
| Philips |
|
CMC,
Philips, Mitsubishi |
| Phoenix |
|
Infosmart |
| Pioneer |
|
Pioneer |
| Playo |
|
Ume
Disc, Advanced Media Ltd |
| Powerdisc |
|
Optodisc |
| Princo |
|
Princo,
FakeTDK |
| Prodisc |
|
Prodisc,
Mitsubishi |
| Radius |
|
Optodisc |
| Ridata,
Ritek |
Ritek |
Ritek,
Ricoh |
| Rivision |
|
MCC,
Ritek,
Ricoh, Optodisc,
CMC, TDK, Prodisc |
| Samsung |
|
Optodisc,
BeAll |
| SKC |
|
SKC |
| Smartbuy |
|
Prodisc |
| Sony |
Sony |
Taiyo
Yuden, Sony, Ricoh,
Mitsubishi |
| Staples |
|
CMC |
| TDK |
CMC,
Ritek |
TDK,
CMC, Moser Baer, Philips, Taiyo
Yuden, Ritek, Ricoh, Maxell |
| Teon |
|
CMC,
Mitsubishi |
| Tesco |
|
UME
Disc, Advanced Media Ltd |
| Traxdata |
|
Ritek |
| Verbatim |
Mitsubishi |
Mitsubishi,
Taiyo Yuden (Europe), CMC,
Ricoh, Ritek |
| Verbatim
"Value Series" & "Life Series" |
Ritek,
CMC |
Ritek,
CMC |
| WinData |
|
FAKES,
Ume Disc |
If you can add to this branding list, feel free to post some
information in our forum. As time allows, we'll track down some of the media for our own
testing purposes, or request it from the manufacturer. For
unusual brands and media IDs, ask
in the forum or Contact
Us. In most cases, unknown media IDs are of dubious
quality. Some unknown brands are overstock from other media
manufacturers. This is often the mark of very cheap media.
Buyer beware.
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