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digitalvideo 04-26-2003 12:14 PM

Will tmpgenc dvd authoring tool author kvcd mpeg-1 to dvd?
 
will tmpegencs new dvd authoring tool accept all the kvcd templates please i need to know this so i can author all my kvcd-generated files to a single dvd will this work i mean templates like kvcdx2,kvcdx3,kvcdlbr, kvcd@352x480

kwag 04-26-2003 12:17 PM

Good question :!:
Who's going to be the first one to try it :?:
Any volunteers 8)

-kwag

SodGawd 04-26-2003 05:26 PM

according to the specs on their website the only resolution accepted for MPEG-1 is 350x240.. bummer guys.. but it did not state that there no way to turn compliancy off.. maybe there is.. hmmmm

urban tec 04-26-2003 06:26 PM

It accepts 1/2 D1 template output, this is of course mpeg2.

kwag 04-26-2003 08:04 PM

Maybe we'll be able to trick it with DVDPatcher 8)

-kwag

kwag 04-26-2003 11:17 PM

Well, I guess I had to do it :D
I downloaded TMPGEnc DVD Author, and did some tests with the 30 day trial.
Result: It works :!:
You can author MPEG-1 and it WILL swallow it as a standard MPEG-2, BUT :!: , you have to do this which is what I did:

I encoded a 15 second sample with KVCD 704x480 PLUS, which is MPEG-1.
After I encoded the .m1v, I used the program "pulldown.exe" ( Do a search on google.com. You'll find it! )
It's a command line utility, which adds 3:2 pull down to "supposedly" MPEG-2 video streams, but it works fine with MPEG-1 too :!:
The program leaves a converted file with the name "pulldown.m2v".
That's your new video stream. Now mux that with your .mp2 audio ( Mux as DVD :!: ), and you're done :D TMPGEnc DVD Author will import that file perfectly, not to mention that it took KVCD's long GOP of 24 just fine :mrgreen:
I burned the DVD project to a DVD+RW, and I just tested it on my Panasonic RP-56 and a Sony NS-300. Played fine, and the new TMPEG menu looks cool and very easy too :)
I also tried 528x480 with the same procedure as above, but after running "pulldown.exe", I used "DVDPatcher" to patch the 528x480 resolution to 704x480. The result, TMPGEnc imported the file again as a 704x480 DVD compliant file :mrgreen:
However, the video doesn't look 100% correct in the preview window! It looks like it's not streched all the way to the right. I didn't try 544x480, and maybe that's the trick. I'll let someone else try that!. So this confirms that TMPGEnc DVD Author will accept MPEG-1 files tricked and muxed as MPEG-2 DVD program. I assume that it will also import 352x240(288) and 352x480(576) MPEG-1 just by using "pulldown.exe"
You don't need to run "pulldown.exe" if you're encoding at 29.97fps, but I do all my encodes (or all the ones I can!) at 23.976fps. This is not a DVD compliant frame rate, so you must use 3:2 pull down.

Enjoy your (higher quality/longer playing) MPEG-1 DVDs :D

-kwag

jorel 04-26-2003 11:35 PM

:?:
tmpegencs new dvd authoring tool :?:

:?
don't know it!

urban tec 04-27-2003 09:54 AM

Mixed results with mpeg1 dvd on my pioneer dv344, 528 x 576 25 fps source using 24 gop can be authored once patched but only plays on half of the screen, this is a limitation of my standalone, funny the same happens if it is burnt as vcd but if I burn it a s svcd it works fine ( I was hoping dvd would be the same.

kwag 04-27-2003 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urban tec
Mixed results with mpeg1 dvd on my pioneer dv344, 528 x 576 25 fps source using 24 gop can be authored once patched but only plays on half of the screen, this is a limitation of my standalone, funny the same happens if it is burnt as vcd but if I burn it a s svcd it works fine ( I was hoping dvd would be the same.

This could be a hint for all :!:
If a standalone DVD player can play MPEG-1 KVCDs, most probably it wil play them on DVD :D

-kwag

urban tec 04-28-2003 01:59 AM

Hi Kwag,

Just curious, after performing pulldown on a 24 fps video to make it 29 fps how do you convert the audio to 29fps

SodGawd 04-29-2003 08:18 AM

good question... This might answer my problems with DVD Workshop and Moviefactory.. I thought about using Pulldown on the files but was way too tired last night to give it a whirl... Will try once I get home from work.. hopefully all will be in sync.. :?

kwag 04-29-2003 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urban tec
Hi Kwag,

Just curious, after performing pulldown on a 24 fps video to make it 29 fps how do you convert the audio to 29fps

You don't :!:
The 3:2 pulldown is just a flag! Just like the NTSC DVDs are encoded at 24fps, and we use DVD2AVI to remove the "RFF" :)

-kwag

Yoda 05-01-2003 01:49 PM

Kwag,
When you used DVDPatcher did you select "entire file" or "first header only"? Also TmpgEnc told me I had corrupted data when I remuxed as SVCD. It doesn't have a DVD mux option.

-Yoda

Bud 07-18-2003 04:37 AM

TMPGEnc DVD Authoring
 
Had some success with the latetest version TMPGEnc DVD authoring tool. My only problem is that this program is looking for a 29.97 fps. When I process the VOB with DVD2AVI that only way I can get the 29.97 fps is to select the FILM (not force Film). When I try this I see a "Combing" effect in various parts of the move. How Can I get rid of these. What KVCD templates I use in Moviestacker and what script should I use as far a filtering? Bottom line is I want to get 2 or three movies on one DVD-R with a menu system and TEMPGEnc DVD will do this. Would be nice if someone could give me a sample script script to get this done. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Thank You

Bud

vico1 07-18-2003 04:02 PM

@Bud,
Someone correct me if I`m wrong here...but Kwag may have answered
this one for you already in an earlier post in this thread.

About applying the "PullDown.exe" on your vid.

Pulldown.exe:GUI
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/do...ldown_gui.html


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Avalon 07-18-2003 04:25 PM

I did the whole stuff and wrote a guide for it... in german...
I think there people outside how want to have this guide in english...

Posts please post to me an i translate the guide to english...

Bud 07-18-2003 04:57 PM

Thanks to all for your response. Avalon -> I would like a guide in english if possible. vico1 -> I did try to do a search for the Kwag post, but as you know , in most cases you wind up a 1000 threads to look through. Was just hoping someone has tried this and made it work. I will try the pulldown an dpost my results here. Again many thanks to all.

Bud

Bud 07-18-2003 04:59 PM

Avalon

Disregard...found the english guide. Thanks again

Bud

Avalon 07-19-2003 06:51 PM

Where? Did somebody translate my guide? ...
Send me a link...

syk2c11 11-16-2003 10:30 AM

Hi guys,
For those of you who are using TMPGEnc DVD Author, it DOES accept mpeg file muxed as Non-standard VCD, it does NOT have to be muxed as DVD. So, we can just feed the KVCD directly into TMPGEnc DVD Author without any additional procedure (provided that you video stream is either 352x240 or 352x480 or 704x480 or 720x480). After muxing your m1v and mp2 as Non-standard VCD by BBMpeg, we can either burn to CD-R or import into TMPGEnc DVD Author burning to DVD-/+R. What a wonderful world!!! :P

By the way, don't worry about the sampling rate of the audio stream, TMPGEnc DVD Author will take care of it by re-sampling from 44.1 to 48 (if you are burning to DVD). I just can't stop loving it.

pocomike 11-20-2003 10:15 AM

Ok so in a nut shell, all i have to do is put my allready made KVCD files into TMPEG Dvd Authoring and thats it no other converting needed. So thats like making one big KVCD onto a dvd.

bman 11-21-2003 04:13 AM

What about standard DVD GOP structure : PAL -15 , NTSC-18 .
KVCD is with GOP 24 / 25 (NTSC / PAL) .
Is resulted DVD compatible and playng flowlessly on standalone players :roll: :roll: :roll:
More info will be very helpful in here :wink: :wink: :wink:
bman

syk2c11 11-21-2003 05:13 AM

If your DVD player plays KVCD, it shouldn't be a problem after you putting KVCDs into DVD media. Don't worry about the GOP, DVD Author gives you a warning when you import, just click "ignore" and proceed as usual. Enjoy it.

I forgot to mention one thing, if your KVCDs is 25fps or 29.97fps, you need to do nothing before importing into DVD Author. If your KVCDs are 23.97fps, then you have to use "Pulldown" making it 29.97.

bman 11-21-2003 06:33 AM

@ syk21c11
Thank's for fast responce :D :D :D
U probably are right about TMPG dvd authoring tool - it's very friendly and allow to ignore from standard DVD structure requirements (one of them GOP) as I read on DVDRHELP.com site.
Users of this prog are very pleased with it's simplicity too .
I didn't used it yet but I'll soon .
bman

syk2c11 12-01-2003 07:37 AM

Did anyone use Tmpeg DVD Author to author a DVD with switchable subtitle? I prepare my VOB by using IFO Edit (mux with 2 subtitles), I have tested the VOB generated by IFO Edit which plays fine, subtitles are switchable and working fine. However, after I import the same set of VOBs into Tmpeg DVD Author (I made a simple menu with it), the subtitle button is deemed (grayed) in PowerDVD, no subtitle is selectable. How can I fix this problem. I did exactly the same as suggested by a member in this forum (sorry, I forgot his name), he suggested the following:

-->Click on the Open Button, and open the VTS_01_0.IFO generated by IFOEdit. CLick on the (-) button to open the tree view.

-->Click on VTS_PGC_ITI (on the tree view) and them on the (+) that will appear. Now click on "VTS_PGC_1"

-->On the window in the bottom, scroll down till you find "sub-picture stream 1 status". Double click in this line, and copy to clipboard the value that appears in a messagebox (something like "-2130706432")

-->Now click on the (-) sign in the top of tree (VTS_01_0.IFO) to close the tree. Click on the open button again and open the VTS_01_0.IFO generated by Tmpeg DVD Author. Find the "sub-picture stream 1 status" for this file in the same way you did before. Notice it has a zero value. Double click on it and paste the value you got from the other IFO.

-->Repeat steps 10-12 to VTS_PGC_2, VTS_PGC_3 and so on (if it exists). Also repeat this for the second subtitle stream ("sub-picture stream 2 status"), if it exists

-->Now your DVD already has subtitles.


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