Dust version 5
 

version 5 of Dust is out to try...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=1

This version should greatly reduce the blockiness with motion issue. It has many internal changes.

Two new filters introduced.
GoldDust Heavy filtering for more serious problems. This one will definately blur the image, so it recommended you use it before resizing smaller.

SpaceDust This fast filter is spatial only. For those complaining about how slow Dust is

It's PLAYTIME :mrgreen:

-kwag

Is this version suppose to be any faster? It seems like it's still the same as the last version as far as speed.

Try SpaceDust() instead of FaeryDust(). That has been added to the new version.

-kwag

@ kwag...

I saw your Episode II Sample somewhere... well isn't that what you would call heavy letterboxing?? I suppose you used Overscan 2 right? See what I meant earlier when I said that TV Overscan also reduces height?

btw: Sample looks damn good for a 1 CD encode of this high action beast!

It looks perfect on the TV. There are no borders on the sides. The TV stretches it flush with the edges, and looks the same aspect as the original DVD :wink:. Here's the script I used for that movie:


Yeah :D. I've been doing almost every ~2 hour movie on one CD with KVCDx3 and SansGrip's filters + Dust. It's good enough, and I don't need to change CD's in the middle of the movie :wink:

-kwag

Spacedust() cause a thin pink bar on the right side of the picture. It's just about the width of the overscan blocks. If i comment it out, the pink bar disappears. Any ideas? Here's my script:

LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\MPEG2DEC.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\fluxsmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Convolution3D.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DecombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Sampler.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\NoMoSmooth.dll")
Video1=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc1\LOTRDisc1.d2v")
Trim(Video1,0,189899)
Video2=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc2\LOTRDisc2.d2v")
Unalignedsplice(Video1,Video2)
Telecide()
Decimate()
LegalClip()
Gripcrop(352,480)
Letterbox(0,0,16,16)
Spacedust()
Convolution3d(preset="movieHQ")
Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize")
Gripborders()
LegalClip()
Sampler()

No 8O. I didn't get that on my encode. It's not visible in the sample.

-kwag

Weird. I can see it in TMPGEnc preview, and when i play the sample in WinDVD. There is no pink bar when i use Faerydust, it's only there when i use Spacedust.

Have you tried removing every filter, and only using spacedust :idea:
Just to see if it is an interaction with another filter :!:

-kwag

No I haven't, I'll give that a try. Thanks.

Smoochie3
why are you using Letterbox(0,0,16,16) ?

Smoochie3

Let me know if you find a solution to the pink-bar problem -- I've got the same issue..

Well, someone asked how to you could have the TV overscan on just the sides without cutting any of the picture from the top and bottom, and from what i understand, using Letterbox(0,0,16,16) after Gripcrop() will accomplish that.

I'm not at home right now, but if i figure it out i'll let you...and you do the same! :D

Smoochie3

Have you tried to put letterbox after spacedust() in your script?

OK, I commented all the filters with "#", and the pink bar disappears. Then I removed the "#" for Gripcrop(352,480), Gripsize(resizer="LanczoseResize"), and the pink bar comes back. I also tried taking out the "resizer=LanczoseResize", but the pink bar is still there. So, Spacedust() must not like Gripcrop()/Gripsize(). :cry:

so, with this script:
There is NO pink bar.

But with this script:
The Pink Bar Comes Back! :x

Any Ideas?

Hi Smoochie3,

Did you take out Letterbox(0,0,16,16) line :idea:

Yes, i commented it in both scripts i tried. I just figured out that if i place the Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize") immediately after the Letterbox(0,0,16,16) line, the pink bar disappears. Sooo...if i resize before applying the filters everything is ok. What would cause this?

recap:
This works:
This doesn't:

Try:

IIRC Dust needs the clip's width to be a multiple of 8, and by default GripCrop makes it a multiple of 4.

Use Letterbox last to add your overscan borders left and right and don't do any filtering afterwards or you'll likely lose the pure black.

Thank You!

Wow... 8O

I just finished my first full encode with DustV5... Amazing! I put Signs on one CD-R, with the KVCDx3 and it really is hard for me to distinguish it from the original DVD... That is sooooo awesome... :lol:
I'm gonna use faerydust on every encode from now on! I think it does a good job on encodes for DVD-Rs too... I'll try it!!

Awesome isn't it? :mrgreen: What CQ did you use? I got mine up to 71.5.

Hey!
Are you still using blockbuster?
Do we still need it if we use dust+c3d? :roll:

I'm using it :D. Here's my script:

And I toggle between SpaceDust and FaeryDust, depending on the material :)
I only use C3D IF necessary. I notice the "ghosting" effect on top of the picture when using it, and I really hate that :twisted:

-kwag

Kwag

have you tried temporal cleaner instead of C3D?

It runs faster and you just end up with a little larger file using the default settings vs. C3D w\movie LQ

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=3

I'll give it a try :) Thanks!.

-kwag

I've been getting good samples with
spacedust()
TemporalCleaner()

and the samples are turning out smaller than using

faerydust()
Convolution3d(preset="movieLQ")

now need to do fast action movie and see how it looks on T.V.

Have you done a side by side quality comparison with Vdub capturing a frame from both encodes :?:

not a side by side, just looking at it in zoom player and windvd and looking at it frame by frame to see how watchable it is...

Hi, greetings from denmark! :)


anyone tried pixiedust()?


from dust readme:
"PixieDust is essentially FaeryDust (temporal) + SpaceDust (spatial) (with some twists). It is
probably the best to use for medium noise and those who shoot for
1-CD encodes. Recommended limit settings 3-8."


LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec .dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\enc\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\enc\GripFit.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\enc\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\enc\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\enc\sampler.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\enc\vobsub.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\enc\convolution3d.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\enc\dustv5.dll")

eg.
Mpeg2Source("F:\1.d2v")
LegalClip()
GripCrop( width=480, height=576, overscan=2 )
GripSize()
pixiedust()
Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.3, seed=1)
GripBorders()
LegalClip()


Zee ya

How about using faerydust together together with TemporalSmoother ? what's the difference between cleaner and smoother?

Temporal Cleaner is a Temporal Smoother...

temporal cleaner is faster also...

From avisynth.org....

Temporal Smoothers:

These filters use color similarities and differences between frames to improve the picture and reduce compressed size. They can get rid of most noise in stationary areas without losing detail, but overly strong settings can cause moving areas to be blurred.

Try it and tell me your results with space dust and temporal cleaner, I'm at work right now and last night I couldn't get the mpg file to open in vdub to take a snapshot to do a side by side evaluation...

Kwag
Do I need to make a script to get vdub to open mpeg1? cuz I kept getting an error dump...

You should be able to open any MPEG-1 directly with Vdub.

-kwag

here are the results while I'm at work... :D

This is with faerydust only...

http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2003/01/8.jpg


This is with spacedust and temporal cleaner


http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2003/01/9.jpg

The cartoon length is 3min 35sec and a DivX file
KVCDX3 528x480
faerydust took 34.04min to encode and is 49.58 meg with 75CQ
spacedust with temporal cleaner took 17.31min to encode and is 46.12 meg with 75 CQ

Alright I'll go for Spacedust and TemporalCleaner ! 8)
thanks buddy!

@ KingTuk,

can you post your avs script please? 8O
thanks in advance! :wink:

well for that divx I used this script...

LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\dustv5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avs\plugin\TemporalCleaner.dll")
DirectShowSource("D:\movie.avi", fps=25)
EnsureVBRMP3Sync()
LegalClip()
BilinearResize(528,480)
spacedust()
TemporalCleaner()
LegalClip()

Some people have trouble with DirectShowSource
and need to use AviSource

thanks vm. :)

from Steady (dust maker)

copy from his post:

"What's going on? Is this the proper technique for applying GoldDust() to separate fields in an interlaced video?

Well it should be but ... This is related to the 'only one instance per filter' issue. I am not sure why (something about how it interacts with avisynth). But for now if you have more than one (dust) filter in a script you get odd behavior.

For those asking about avisynth 2.5 version ... Of course there will be a avs2.5 version eventually. But Dust is constantly changing, and avisynth2.5 is constantly changing. And I just don't need another source of weird bugs to track down. In a month or 2 when things have stabilized a bit.

Please remember that this is an Alpha version not a Beta. I consider an alpha as something that you are not even sure what it does yet. Beta is more where you make it work stable and fast. If you you this, you may get odd results, crash your computer, or martians may come cut off your head and put it on backwards. Almost certainly you will regret using it on something permanent when the much improved Dust17 comes out down the road.

One other thing I keep forgetting to mention. The height and width should be a multiple of 8 or you may get strange artifacts."
:wink: