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Sykes 06-27-2003 12:42 AM

moviestacker cant work with avisynth?
 
If moviestacker cant work with avsynth 2.52 & Dvd2Avi 1.77.3
Then how are all these people working with 2.52's scripts ?

Ive tryed makin "d2v" files with Dvd2Avi 1.77.3 that work with
Avsynth 2.52, But no such luck They wont load in tmpgenc.
Can someone give me some heavyduty instructions ta using 2.52 with 1.77.3,

(PS I can work with the older avs2.08 & Dvd2Avi 1.76)
Just not the new one :(
Pleeeease help :cry:

kwag 06-27-2003 12:50 AM

If you install avisynth 2.52, and then you go to your C:\Program files\Avisynth 2.5\Examples
Can you open the file "Version.avs" in WMP :?:
If avisynth is installed correctly, WMP should display the version.

-kwag

Sykes 06-27-2003 12:52 AM

it does read out the verson number when i do that (so if avsynth 2.52 is installed corretly then where am i going wrong?

kwag 06-27-2003 12:57 AM

Good. Next step :)
Create a .d2v project with DVD2AVI 1.77.3 and then create an .avs script with only these two lines:

LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
Mpeg2Source("X:\Your_Path\Your_File.d2v")

Make sure you are using MPEG2DEC3.dll and check your paths.
Now see if you can open this .avs with VirtualDub. You should see the movie or some error :!:

-kwag

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:00 AM

k bak in 5 mins :D

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:21 AM

k bak still not workin in vdub :cry:

kwag 06-27-2003 01:23 AM

What's the error you get in Vdub :?:

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:27 AM

Avisynth open faliure
Evaluate: Unrecognized exception!
(C:\Documents and settings\AMD Athon XP 2000\Desktop\Tester.avs, line 2)

kwag 06-27-2003 01:32 AM

What is the source you're creating the .d2v from :?:
It is a DVD right :?:

-kwag

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:33 AM

ye DVD on the harddisk

kwag 06-27-2003 01:36 AM

Question: Is this the only DVD you have tried, or have you tried other DVDs too :?:

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:38 AM

Im not too sure of what way u meant that but I've ripped alotta movies but to divx so its not the first movie ive done But this is the 1st 1 i've done kvcd style

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:40 AM

Like i said b4 ive done it with avs 2.08 yesterday but i want quality in the motion aspect of the film aswell so i need ta switch ta 2.52 & 1.77.3

kwag 06-27-2003 01:41 AM

No, I mean if you have tested other .d2v files from other VOBs like this :?:

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:41 AM

no just this 1

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:43 AM

can u copy & paste an exact copy of a test script where i would only have ta change the location of the d2v file , so that i may see if that works ?

kwag 06-27-2003 01:43 AM

I see (guess!) you have an Athlon XP :!: The only difference is that I have a Pentium 4. So I don't know if there's an issue with AviSynth 2.52 and Athlon processors :!:

kwag 06-27-2003 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sykes
can u copy & paste an exact copy of a test script where i would only have ta change the location of the d2v file , so that i may see if that works ?

You can create another project from another set of VOBs, and just overwrite your test .d2v file. Then you don't have to change the script, because it will reference the same .d2v :)

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:46 AM

Well chances of that r like almost non dont u think ? i mean the old 1 2.08 can work why wouldent the newer 1

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:47 AM

honestly i dont even know how the 2.52 script should even look like can u copy & paste me a lil sample maybe i typed things wrong

kwag 06-27-2003 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sykes
Well chances of that r like almost non dont u think ? i mean the old 1 2.08 can work why wouldent the newer 1

Because 2.5x is a whole new ball game :!:
But try another set of VOBs from another movie, just to try to narrow down the problem :!:

Sykes 06-27-2003 01:50 AM

K ... I will do that b bak soon hope your around lol

kwag 06-27-2003 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sykes
honestly i dont even know how the 2.52 script should even look like can u copy & paste me a lil sample maybe i typed things wrong

Here's a complete working script I'm currently encoding with:
Code:

## DLL Section ##
#
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\GripFit_YV12.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\STMedianFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\unfilter.dll") 
#
####

## Defined Variables and Constants ##
#
MaxTreshold = 1.50

nf =  0 # Current frame.
lf =  0 # Current frame.

#
####

## Main section and static filters ###
#
Mpeg2Source("F:\KPAX\VIDEO_TS\movie-dvd2avi-1.77.3.d2v")

#
undot()
Limiter()
asharp(2, 4)
GripCrop(528, 480)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 )
MergeChroma(blur(MaxTreshold))
MergeLuma(blur(0.2))
#
#

ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf > 2.5 ? \
unfilter( -(fmin(round((nf/0.5)), 100)), -(fmin(round((nf/0.5)), 100)) ) : \
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2) ")

GripBorders()
LetterBox(16, 16, 16, 16)
Limiter()

#
#
## Functions ###

function fmin(float f1, float f2) {
  return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2
}


Sykes 06-27-2003 01:59 AM

b4 i go take 10 mins ta ripp im gonna load your script & try it i tryed & it lookin for dlls gripfit ect ect im gonna go find the dlls & hit u bak

Sykes 06-27-2003 02:08 AM

k i loaded your exact script & my own filename & installed all the filters it requires in c:\filters25 & now when i open an avs file in wmp 9 it says ...

MPEG2Source couln't open file
(c:\documents and settings\AMD Athlon XP 2000\Desktop\Tester.avs. Line 24)

Sykes 06-27-2003 02:12 AM

Now im gettin a diff set of vobs from a diff source

Sykes 06-27-2003 02:41 AM

no kwag it wont even work with another movie ? :cry:
whats going on> said somethin about a evealuate exceprtion!

Sykes 06-27-2003 02:49 AM

am i doomed to 2.52 ? How much better exacty is it compared with its sister program 2.08 ?
Is there a bigtime picture & motion quality difference ?

Sykes 06-27-2003 03:42 AM

Guess u went ta bed with the quickness lol
I figured out that dvd2avi 1.76 works with avs2.52 But
When I play the avs file in wmp its upside down
HELP !!

Sykes 06-27-2003 04:45 AM

While "Kwag" was sleeping ...
 
While Kwag was sleepin :zzzsleep: I managed ta figure out that Dvd2Avi 1.76 will in fact work with avs2.52 scripts :wink: :) :o :D :angel:
Now if only someone can tell me how ta make my 16:9 movies stretch & almost fit the whole screen (top & bottom)
Any1?

Grantman 06-27-2003 07:58 PM

Think back to Geometry class?
 
There is only one way to make a 16:9 movie fit full screen. Cut off information.

That is what PAN SCAN is... it is cutting off the left and the right sides of the frame leaving only the portion that could be shown on a TV screen.

The idea of PAN is that the center of the frame shifts to make sure the key parts of the shot are included in the part that is shown. Most movies are pretty centered so you only lose panoramic data but not always. Most TV versions of a movie have sceens that were shot twice... once for 16:9 and once for TV. Editing those scenes is another part of the PAN SCAN process.

I believe that PAN SCAN is not even truly the same as TV. It is still a bit wider of a format and sometimes it is just stretched to fit instead of being cropped further.

There is no way to keep the 16:9 on a TV unless you keep the black bars on top and bottom.

Grantman


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