FuPP, thanks!
:D

i'm changing to

GripCrop(720,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)

ok?
my source and target are ntsc and the tests for KDVD !
the remainder lines are the same.

:wink:

Jorel, you should trust me and do your KDVD in anamorphic.
I know you don't have the money to buy a widescreen TV but... in 5 years ell TV set sold will be widescreen. Taht means that in 10 years, you will have one.

And this day, you will be very sad with all your 4:3 KDVD.

Moreover a lot of 4:3 TV are anamorphic compatible. And the picture is far better than with a 4:3 letterboxed one.
How is yours ?

results using toy story 1
2000 frames = 01:23.45

Asharp(1,3)
Levels(0,1.04,255,0,255)
GripCrop(720,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)
HybridFuPP(preset="medium",width = GripFit_resize_width, height = GripFit_resize_height)
GripBorders()
ConvertToYUY2()
trim(13000,15000)

time to encode---> 04:28 ----> champ
size---> 17,4Mb = 17818Kb

and:

undot()
Limiter()
asharp(1, 4)
Levels(0,1.04,255,0,255)
GripCrop(720,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")
GripBorders()
Limiter()
function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}
ConvertToYUY2()
trim(13000,15000)

Time to encode---> 09:01
size---> 16,3Mb = 16716Kb ---> champ

differences:
despicable, very tiny or nothing...very hard to see!

:arrow: ilustrations (not real):
FuPP script is 1% sharp
Kwag script is 1% better red.

was used:
Asharp(1,3) in the FuPP script
asharp(1, 4) in the Kwag script
and the same
Levels(0,1.04,255,0,255)
in the scripts only to encrease details !

FuPP script is faster!
Kwag script give more compression!
general quality:
AMAZING in all results!
8)

oh yes Phil,
i will follow your recomendations but see (using my original dvds)

toy story 1 is 16:9, (black bars top/bottom)
toy story 2 is 4:3 (full screen)
bugs life is 4:3 too.
i want to do 1 KDVD with this 3 cartoons!

just post the "resize" parameters for each, and i use !
please!
:wink:

.....10 years is too long time!
:cry:

Hi jorel,

For the resolution you're using, and if your source is a clean DVD (which probably is!), remove the line:
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
That will give you a boost in speed, without any visual difference. File size should still be about the same as without the line.

-kwag

a few remarks :

1/ HybridFuPP does already oversharpening, asharp is therefore not needed. If you want to sharp even more, use E_Str_X and E_Str_Y parameters, ortherwise let defaults.

2/ I think I would have put levels after filtering

3/ Did you use the latest alpha I sent to you, 0.861 ?

4/ I'm quiet surprised by speed results : I thought I had read somewhere on this forum that MA was faster :?:

FuPP

ABout the resizing i thought you were just supposed to use something like this

LanczosResize(496, 334, 4, 0, 712, 480 :arrow: From moviestacker

Crop(4, 0, 712, 480 )
HybridFuPP(496, 334, Preset="High", Chroma=False)

Is this not OK anymore

@ Fupp

I am no where near the intelligence of most people here but this is the script i'm using (this is taking directly from a post by Audioslave,thanks buddy :D )


Is there anything i should change because i see you told Jorel not to use Chroma=False.Remember i don't know alot i just want the best encode i can get :D

No posts in this thread for days and i get home from work and there are 3 new pages

Thanx

#STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
time to encode---> 03:22 ---> champ
size ---> 16,4Mb = 16837Kb ---> champ

8O champ!

differences/quality
colors are the same, FuPP script is 1% sharp like ilustrations!

FuPP wrote:
"Did you use the latest alpha I sent to you, 0.861 ? "
no, was used the 084b!
where is the 0.861 ?
:?

MA faster ?
removing
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
is faster and short!
:wink:

Now we're talking ;)

-kwag

@ Jorel

should be in your private box :wink:

@bigggt

HybridFuPP doesn't need a resizer prior to it. No need of lanczos...
is ok.

if your version is (unofficial) 0.85, I suggest you to put chroma=true.

FuPP

It's really hard to believe Hybrid is so fast 8O

Jorel, if you include the Gripcrop trick that FuPP has describe you can do all your movies withotu having to bother yourself with resize parameters : theyt will be computed automatically for each movie.

:driveby: :driveby: :driveby:
Speed test. Speed test. Speed test. :lol:

-kwag

Thanx Fupp


So this is better then since i'm using 85a

@ Jorel

are you using exact same settings in Tmpenc for both scripts(ie-high quality and motionestimate)

just want to try some tests

right FuPP,
i got the 0.861 version ( ~5,37Kb size)
thanks!

time to encode ---> 04:03
size ---> 16,9Mb = 17357Kb

quality ?
the same like ilustrations!
:wink:

@ Kwag:
i forgot to confirm:
yes, my dvds are (Disney) originals, very clean and new!
:)

@ Phil:
where is my "resizes" for my 3 movies posted?
i will follow your recomendations!
:wink:

@Bigggt

8)

@kwag

FuPP is a slow brain. His scripts are therefore not intended to be the fastest ones...

@jorel

did you finally remove asharp ?
what do you mean by "the same like ilustrations! "

@ FuPP:
:arrow: ilustrations (not real):
FuPP script is 1% sharp
Kwag script is 1% better red.

@ all
i can say :
very cool too!

Kwag and FuPP scripts are
8)
never see this quality before!!!


@ Phil
Phil,i read your post but have doubts,please explain again!
(never forget, i'm stup with horrible english)
:oops:

Ok :)
In the end, quality is what matters.
But hopfully not as slow as waiting for the social security retirement checks :lol:

-kwag

:wink:

@jorel : I'm not sure you've seen my previous post...

You don't want to use Gricrop so ?

@FuPP
Any chance of getting to see the new script you sent to jorel :?: :roll:

Have you money ?

:mrgreen:
Not at the moment... :lol:

Not at the moment... :)

8) :lol:

Simple : if you use the script with the Gricopline you told above you can use the exact same script for every movies ! You do not need to change the resizing parameters as GripCrop computes them automatically.

Just change "dest_anamorphic=false" to "dest_anamorphic=true" in order to do anamorphic KDVD.

@audioslave

I have to work (once more) on the doc, that nobody will never read :wink: , as some things have changed a little bit...

Btw, I'm not sure having too many public versions is a good thing (I can see here some people using 0.855a, which is abnormal : I probably published it by error, ie forgetting to change its name, on my web site...). 0.855, is not good at all (quality I mean, but compressibility is probably very good :wink: )

FuPP

oh yes,.....
see the results without
asharp(1,3)

time to encode --->03:55
size ---> 16,1Mb = 16548Kb --->champ

:arrow: ilustrations (not real):
Kwag script is 1% better red and 2% more sharp and faster.
FuPP script have short size!

:wink:

your choice my friend, i will do tests and post!
:D

sorry Jorel, but I don't get you when you talk about

let me say:
tiny,very very short, maybe have differences,,seems different...

you don't get what i'm talking about?
yes,you got the feeling.

i can feel but can't explain.....means = seems different,nothing so important!
:wink:

@ Kwag, FuPP and all:
again i write and i'm honest:
never see this quality before,!
the 2 scripts are CHAMP !
8)

no problem Jorge !

I only need to understand what you mean by "script is 1% better red" for instance !

About sharpness, if you still have a few time, you can also try with E_Str_X=20, E_Str_Y=20 (or 30/30 if needed)

FuPP

"script is 1% better red" means :
i work with tvs for long time ( + 30 years), and for me (my eyes),
when the image have more sharpness, the red encrease too.
the "spectrum" of red color is "too short"....
little differences in the sharpness, change a little the red matiz too !

yeah FuPP, i have time!

but i don't know how do this adjusts?!?!?
please,post here!
:)

ok FuPP,
without asharp (of course)

time to encode ---> 03:53
size ---> 16,2Mb = 16627Kb ---> champ

quality:
exact the same as Kwag script, nothing different :!:
Kwag script still faster without STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 ).
FuPP script have short size.

8)

Now we're talking :wink:

More seriously, what kind of stuff was it : still scenes, action, dark/light scenes ?

HybridFuPP is particularly good when encoding black screens with a lot of motion (though it does it slowly...) :lol:

is from toy story 1 trim(13000,15000).

if you have the cartoon you will see the same.

let me show some details:
the soldiers are jumping from the bucket,
after have a big dark scene (the closed door is opening),
they are taking a "walkie talkie" (still dark),
the soldiers jumping with parachutes and with a "wrape"
woody is on the radio,the Andy mom open the door.,
the soldiers "freeze" and Andy mom foot the soldiers,,
potato and woody are talking,...

hey this is an ilegal download of the movie,don't?

:lol:

For sure !!! And a very good compressibility ratio too ! No need of all that scripts Jorge !

:lol:

FuPP

FuPP,
The following script lines

GripCrop(352,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)
HybridFuPP(E_Str_X=30,E_Str_Y=30,preset="medium",w idth = GripFit_resize_width, height = GripFit_resize_height)
GripBorders()

produce intermitant white lines along the right side of output frame about two pixels wide. I am using HybridFuPP 0.854a. Encoding to KDVD with TMPGEnc. I suspect this is GripFit related problem because the white lines are not there if I replace the above script lines with

HybridFuPP(352,480,E_Str_X=30,E_Str_Y=30,preset="m edium")