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kwag 02-04-2003 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hudsonhawk
I have been under the impression that if your source is video and not film it has to remain at 29.97, as it was never 23.976 to begin with. Won't that produce questionable results?

If your original source is 29.97fps, you have to capture at 29.97fps and also encode at 29.97fps. If the original source is 23.976 (actually 24 FILM ), you still capture at 29.97fps because it has been telecine'd to 29.97fps, but then you Inverse Telecine back to 23.976fps AND encode at 23.976fps.

-kwag

joeven 02-07-2003 10:48 AM

Kwag....I almost got it
 
I have been able to burn a disk that plays in my Apex 1200 player but it is not quite right yet. Here is what happened:

I captured a short clip from an old b&w movie at 352 x 480 AVI. I used AVI_IO and the PicVideo codec.

Using the script that you so kindly supplied earlier in this thread, I frameserved the clip to TMPGEnc 2.510 using the template named KVCD-CQ-352x240-_NTSCFilm_-PLUS. All seemed to go well, no error messages.

I burned with VCDeasy. Again, no errors.

The problem is that the image on the TV screen is compressed horizontally. There is a tall thin image in the center of the screen with a black area on both sides.

When I first loaded the script file into TMPGEnc, the box where the source type is shown said that my clip was 704x480. This seemed strange to me since the clip is 352x480.

Do you have any ideas where I might have strayed.

Thanks,

Joe

kwag 02-07-2003 11:15 AM

Hi Joe,

Something went wrong 8O
Please double check your captured AVI properties and see if it is indeed 352x480. If it is, something bombed in GripCrop that didn't detect the film size of your avi. Maybe a CODEC issue with PicVideo and GripCrop :idea:
Could you capture a small file with Huffy CODEC instead, and open it with your script to see if it sets TMPEG to 352x480 :?:

-kwag

joeven 02-07-2003 11:38 AM

Kwag....I almost got it
 
The media player plays the clip at 352x480 and if I don't frameserve and feed the clip directly to TMPGEnc, it is identified correctly.
I'll try the other codec tonight.

Joe

joeven 02-08-2003 01:40 PM

Huffy didn't fix it
 
Well, I tried capturing with the Huffy codec and I got the same result. Once again, if I load the AVI directly into TMPGEnc it looks right. If I try to frameserve via an AVS file the picture is tall and narrow in the center of the screen. No error messages when opening and processing however.

Some possible causes:

1. What config settings should I use in setting up the Huffy codec?

2. Can you verify the sample script that is in the earlier message of this thread? I did a cut and paste to avoid any typing errors on my part.

3. Perhaps I have a wrong version of one of the dll files that the script calls. Can someone email the known working versions?

My email: joeven@pacbell.net

Thanks,

Joe
PS : Or perhaps I should be using a different KVCD template?

joeven 02-11-2003 10:35 AM

Huffy didn't fix it
 
Would it make sense to remove one of the "GripXXX" parameters from the script? If so, which one?

Thanks,

Joe

joeven 02-14-2003 07:06 PM

GripFit was the problem
 
Some success has been had by removing all references to GripFit in the script file. With GripFit out of the picture TMPGEnc shows the picture sized as it should look .
I took a 10 minute clip and processed it and burned with VCDeasy. The 10 minute clip came out to be a 51 MB MPG file. My Apex 1200 liked the disk and it played fine. I was impressed with the quality of the picture, at least in the old black and white movie that I used.
What am I missing out on by not having GripFit in the mix?

Question: Is there a way for me to capture or process so that the entire captured image is visible on the TV screen. I captured using an unregistered copy of the Picvideo codec and when I watched the disk on my TV so much of the picture was hidden that very little of the PIC watermark was visible. I'm guessing that I need to compress the image a bit and put some black bars on the edges of the picture. How does one do that?

Thanks,
Joe


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