Updating computer...
 

I´m just about to update my computer, now I have P3 1000 MHz with 512 megs of sdram, I´m about to by new motherboard and Pentium celeron 2000 MHz with 512 megs of ddr-ram.
The question is, if the encoding takes about 13-16 hours now, how fast will it be after the update, any clue?

Re: Updating
 

Expect ~6 hours for a full encode :wink:

-kwag

I've got P4 2.4ghz (256mb ddr pc2700 ram, 120gb maxtor 7200, ati
radeon 7000 32 mb ddr, via p4 400 mb) because of the encoding. On my
old celeron 433 each movie (approx 1:30h) was taking 40-45h to encode.
With my P4 takes about 50% more of the movie size (2h movie = 3h
encoding, 1:30h movie = 2:15h encoding, etc.). It was like a dream after
those 40-45h sessions... it still is...

Thanks guys, good to hear, I´ll propably get them next weekend!

HI CheronAph,

Get a P4 if you can. TMPEG will take advantage of SSE-2 instruction set, which is not available on P3 (Celeron) series.
:wink:
As JoZ said, it will be like a dream :)

-kwag

Too expensive :( Maybe later, but now I have to settle to a celeron!

Best price I found was HP 754n from Best Buy or Circuit City. Has DVD burner (DVD+RW/CDRW) drive, 2.53 GHz, 512 DDR SDRAM, 80 GB hard drive, 64 MB video ram for $999.

I really like it. Compared to my old 750 P3, it is lightning.

How about AMD XP 2200? Would that be better?

I didn't use amd since my amd486 but I heard good words about amd
lately. Just they are much more hotter then pentium and celeron and you'll
need to put more fans that maybe will make the computer a little bit more
noisy. You may very easy to overclock amd (will increase the heat) and
it'll become more powerful then p4 2.4 at least.

I don't know what are the prices in Finland but in USA it cost me about
$300-50 for p4+mb+ram+power. I used all my other old components.

I think I´ll settle for celeron right now, I am buying a motherboard which supports Hyper threading so maybe in the future I can get all the benefits from that!

Now I think athlon XP +2200 would be better, can´t decide :cry:

Get the athlon XP +2200. It's cheaper, it's faster, and you can use it as a room heater if you need :mrgreen:

-kwag

Kwag and friends :wink:

heater is not more a big problem with athlon.

i found a simple solution to decrease the temperature and pm to muaddib!

please,ask him...you know:
my poor english don't help me to write it here!!!

i see in my athlon 1.6 :

in my pc now:
idle of course.only in internet:

cpu temperature: 27c and
mb temperature: 24 c

when encoding with 100% of cpu (and overclocked to 1.9):

cpu temperature: 49c and
mb temperature: 28c ... 29c

:!:

:wink:

Just ordered the XP +2200!

Please, let us know the results with amd xp +2200 when you
have some tests with it.

I´ll do that!

My modem broke on sunday and I got a new one yesterday :roll:
After blood, sweat and tears I got the motherboard and processor installed, quite worth it I´d say.
Before it took 15-17 hours to encode, now it takes only 4-6 hours!

With cpu amd xp+2200 right? What motherboard, what memory, what's
the size of the memory? I guess that's enough for encoding. What I meant
is that the other parts maybe are very important for many things but encoding.
Maybe if you mention video card and size I (we) will get an idea
how it will work if you are ripping a dvd. Thanks in advance for your answer.

Just if you would like to share will be interesting to me personally approx.
how much did cost your update in europe?

And btw amd can be overclocked much more then intel and as I can hear
it's very stable.

I've been running an XP1800+ for about 6-9 months now and it is a good processor. Typical encode times are between 4-6 hrs for 1hr 30min to 2hr films (i have 256Mb memory) running windows 2000 pro.

Its a shame TmpgEnc does not work in unix, as I have access to an 8-way server with 4 Gigs of memory. Maybe one day....

It does run under Wine :D. I tried it about a year ago under Lindows. The thing that won't run is AviSynth. Maybe it's time to try again :idea:

-kwag

Processor(s)
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
Speed : 1.80GHz
Model Number : 2200 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR2616 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC synchronous write-back

System Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB SMBus/i2c
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
System Mainboard : KT400-8235
System Chipset : VIA Technologies Inc VT8377 Apollo KT400 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 134MHz (268MHz data rate)
Installed Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 168MHz (336MHz data rate)

Video System
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400

Oh, the parts cost 291 €!

Just encoding Jackass, 110 minutes with 352x288 template...

CheronAph, Kwag and all:

trying to turn the pc better.
a few days a buy a new AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
and put in my head to feel if i think faster.
8O

nothing change in my brain...
still slow(my head have old MB), :roll: :lol:

but in pc changed the old
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+
to the
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
feel a big difference!!
:wink:

thought I might hijack this thread since my question is very similar to the original one. I'm looking to upgrade my current Celeron 1.2ghz system and I was thinking of getting the new Athlon 2500+ Barton chipset. I do mostly KVCD encoding, and not much gaming. So I'm looking at getting (all prices in Canadian dollars):

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton -- $139

256mb DDR333 -- $44
or 256mb DDR400 -- $69 (for overclocking?)

MSI K7N3-L nVidia nForce2 -- $139
or Abit NF7-S nVidia nForce2 -- $169 (better for overclocking?)

So how does this combo work? Which memory/mobo combo would you get? My other last question is whether I should get a P4 2.4B Ghz chipset for $100 more. I hear the P4s make a huge difference when it comes to video encoding, but I'm a cheap student so I'm looking for the best "bang for buck" combo. Thanks guys!

Best value for money is the Athlon XP.

Get a motherboard with NForce2 chipset and two 256MB DDR modules. The NForce2 uses a dual channel to get better memory performance and that's why you should have two separate memory modules.

I don't know how much overclocking the XP would take, but I'd choose faster RAM.

Thanks Boulder, I think I'm pushing towards the Athlon XP Barton myself, just cause I can't justify the cost vs. value for the P4. I have heard about the dual DDR thing actually... but with my budget mind I was thinking of getting away with only one 256mb dimm to start with and then when I have more money (and the price hopefully goes down) I'll get another one. Just wasn't sure if I should start now with DDR333 or DDR400. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to AMD overclocking but I heard something about the FSB and memory speed are best run synchronously. So once you go over 333 mhz fsb, your DDR333 memory might not be stable enough to run synchronously, so I was advised to get DDR400 now. It will also be a good upgrade option since newer AMD chipsets will support 400 mhz fsb. I might have my logic all wrong but can someone correct me on this and/or tell me if I'm right? Thanks!

If you can afford it, go for the faster RAM. Eventually it will be useful, especially if you overclock by raising the FSB. The multiplier is probably locked so that's the only way to OC unless you mod the processor slightly. Also if you run the memory at less than 400MHz, you could try lowering the timings (CAS Latency etc.) This will give you a nice performance boost too :D

Do you think 256mb (either DDR333 or 400) will be good enough for me to start off with? Once I get more money and when prices drop I plan on getting a second DIMM to make use of the dual DDR features of the mobo. But for about twice the price I could get one 512mb dimm to start off with... but if I canget away with only 256mb to start off with, it would certainly help my wallet. Just wondering what others have found in their experience with winxp and especially kvcd encoding -- how does this memory difference make in speed/performance?

On my encodes TMPGEnc uses around 100-200MB of memory. It probably depends on the amount of memory you've got, but WinXP is a true memory hog. I'm thinking about getting another 512MB module to satisfy the beast within the system :lol:

If you want to spare some cash, wait for the prices to drop and then get the second module. Encoding will probably be slightly slower but not a great deal slower IMHO. Since 400MHz DDRs just arrived a while ago, the prices should drop quite fast.