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kwag 06-06-2004 09:02 PM

First post of this thread updated with new parameters.

-kwag

Koekies 06-07-2004 03:44 AM

@bigggt it's human to make mistakes :P I've also had that error a couple of times before :P

Koekies 06-07-2004 03:48 AM

Re: Mimicking Motion Adaptiveness blur with Mencoder.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
@All,
.......
Here's your filter line, suitable for DVD encodings:

hqdn3d=2:2:2,sab=0.5:0.5:2,noise=3th:3th

......

Edit:
Changed smart blur to work only on flat areas.


-kwag

So remove the smartblur command you orignally used and change the sab values?

Fluffbutt 06-07-2004 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggt
OK i get and did what you said but i still don't get how to run the bat file,i can't just double click it :roll:

What happens when you double click it?

If it opens a dos window and closes it real quick, it means there's an error in the bat file (usually a file name incorrect, or a directory name incorrect, or the bat file is not in the right directory itself).

If nothing hapens at all, try right clicking, and selecting "open" in the menu that pops up.

If it's the first problem, post your bat file here for us to read, and also make sure yourself that it's in the same folder as mencoder, AND the paths in the bat file that refer to your movie input and output are correct.

Dialhot 06-07-2004 10:06 AM

Better way :
Go so "Start" menu of windows. Select "Run..."
There type "cmd".

A DOS windows will popup.

Type "cd path_where_your_bat_is"
Then type the name of the bat.

This way you will have to error message that stays on the screen if there is any problem.

Koekies 06-07-2004 01:03 PM

@Fluffbutt he allready found out what was wrong :P

bigggt 06-07-2004 06:01 PM

thanx guys i did get it going but thanx for all your hints :D

kwag 06-07-2004 09:36 PM

Here's my latest test sample, with the latest settings. Only difference is that I lowered the noise from 3th to 2th. Seems that lower resolutions require lower noise to maintain the same noise floor (min bitrate).
At 352x480, 3th is a little heavy, so I suggest 2th for 352x and 480x, and anything higher, 3th.
This is my first KSVCD test encode with mencoder (same clip, Red Planet), trying 352x480 resolution.
There are no buffer errors at mux time. Clip was "pulled down" for SVCD burning compatibility.
Audio is 44.1Khz.

Sample here:
http://www.kvcd.net/red-planet-ksvcd-352x480.mpg
Average bitrate of 918Kbps, and MAX bitrate set to 2,500Kbps.
Peak is ~2,214Kbps.
Settings used:
vf=yuvcsp,pullup,softskip,crop=720:360:0:58,scale= 336:272,hqdn3d,sab=.5:.5:1,noise=2th,expand=352:48 0

lavcopts=vcodec=mpeg2video:vstrict=-1:vmax_b_frames=2:vrc_maxrate=2500:aspect=4/3:keyint=18:vrc_buf_size=917:preme=2:precmp=2:auto aspect=1:vrc_eq=tex:scplx_mask=0.01:vqmin=1:mbqmin =1:lmin=0.01:[Matrix Follows Here....]

-kwag

Dialhot 06-07-2004 10:14 PM

So to tell that there is no setting of avg bitrate in your line but probably an error of cut/paste.

kwag 06-07-2004 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
So to tell that there is no setting of avg bitrate in your line but probably an error of cut/paste.

Hi Phil,

I didn't paste the "encode.bat" that I use.
I assume is standard operating procedure ;)

-kwag

Fluffbutt 06-08-2004 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koekies
@Fluffbutt he allready found out what was wrong :P

:oops: :oops: :oops:

<Fluffbutt was watching a mouse as he typed...>
:oops:

maurus 06-08-2004 03:15 AM

Code:

pullup,softskip
1) There settings are also for PAL KSVCD?

2) Are you removed vqblur=0?

3) noise=2th also for KSVCD (480x576)?

4) scplx_mask=0.01 and lmin=0.01?

I use scplx_mask=0.3 and lmin=0.3. Are your setting best for KSVCD for 1 CD 80 min, with lower bitrates (900-1300)?

Thanks.


-Maurus

incredible 06-08-2004 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
....... red-planet-.......

vf=.......,pullup,softskip........

Question: As you do encode from your "Red planet" DVD.
I dont understand why do you perform an IVTC on a not telecined DVD source?? As Your sample just gots the pulldown flag but not a real pulldown to "real" 29.97fps :?:

kwag 06-08-2004 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
Question: As you do encode from your "Red planet" DVD.
I dont understand why do you perform an IVTC on a not telecined DVD source?? As Your sample just gots the pulldown flag but not a real pulldown to "real" 29.97fps :?:

Hi Inc,

As stated in the manual, "pullup" takes care of any material that is either mixed, hard telecined, 24 fps progressive and 30 fps progressive.
So this covers all my bases, in case of any future weird source ;)
In this case, as in Red Planet that is processing a true progressive FILM material, "pullup" is not a problem, and doesn't do any changes on the stream.

-kwag

incredible 06-08-2004 11:08 AM

Ok, I didnt beleive before that pullup is that intelligent ;-)

Koekies 06-08-2004 01:33 PM

NOTE: Presently pullup lacks any way to cap the output framerate, so during 30 fps progressive sequences or stills, it will output more than 24 fps, meaning you’ll have trouble if you use it with mencoder −ofps 23.976.

vmesquita 06-08-2004 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koekies
NOTE: Presently pullup lacks any way to cap the output framerate, so during 30 fps progressive sequences or stills, it will output more than 24 fps, meaning you’ll have trouble if you use it with mencoder −ofps 23.976.

This is outdated. If you check the latest manpage from CVS, there's a new filter "softskip" which allows pullup to work correctly with fixed output fps. (and other nice stuff)

Prodater64 06-08-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

This is outdated. If you check the latest manpage from CVS, there's a new filter "softskip" which allows pullup to work correctly with fixed output fps. (and other nice stuff)
Where is that updated manual? Thank you.


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incredible 06-08-2004 01:52 PM

The known path ;-) :

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/info.html#docs

and there "manual"

(but that softskip subject already is included in the manual for maaany weks now.)

Prodater64 06-08-2004 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
The known path ;-) :

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/info.html#docs

and there "manual"

(but that softskip subject already is included in the manual for maaany weks now.)

Thank you Inc, I already knew that link, but I don't knew that it is the latest manual update. :oops:


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