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Blubear 07-27-2004 01:12 PM

KVCD quality Unwatchable?
 
Hi everybody,
I dont know what is happening recently. I cant seem to be able to put out a decent quality KSVCD. The Template states average 120mins @352x576PAL. I tried this along with the KVCDx3 Template MPEG2PAL template to encode a KSVCD movie 112 MINS long with audio at 112kbps.
Tried it in both CQMatic and TOK which I gave up onin the End.
CQMatic gives me predictions as follows:
for CQVBR - 9.21 - final resolution at this setting with MAXBtrt: 2500 - MIN:64 - extremly pixelated on moving objects, good resolution on close ups - faces etc.
for CQ constant - 26.84 - Final Resolution - Unwatchable
Ever since installing the AVS 2.5 setup and using the MA script KVCD just aint happening..
Any body that can help or has had the same problem???

Here is my script currently used. It opens and plays in media player. But everytime I encode the result is rubbish.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\acp\filters\2.5.x\Plugins\MPEG2Dec3.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\acp\filters\2.5.x\Plugins\GripFit.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\acp\filters\2.5.x\Plugins\Undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\acp\filters\2.5.x\Plugins\StMedianFilter.dll ")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\acp\filters\2.5.x\Plugins\Unfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\acp\filters\2.5.x\Plugins\Asharp.dll")


## Main section and static filters ###

#

Mpeg2Source( "C:\Zulu Dawn\DVD2AVI.d2v")
ConverttoYV12()
undot()
Asharp(1,2)
GripCrop(352, 576, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))

#
#

## Linear Motion Adaptive Filtering ##
#
# ( Portions from AviSynth's manual )
# This will apply variable temporalsoften
# and variable blur.
# Both filters are active at all times, and work inversely proportional to the
# activity, measured from current frame to next frame.

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+"unfilter ( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")

#
#
#

GripBorders()
#LetterBox( Your_Values_Here ) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker!

#
#
## Functions ###

function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}

Many thanks,
Steve. :?

Dialhot 07-27-2004 02:45 PM

Your movie is fullscreen maybe ?

If yes, that will be a little more difficult to fit on the CD but not so bad as you experience.

But there is something that is eeird in your script : do you really need the "ConvertToYv12()" line ? If yes, that is not normal.

You can lower the max to 2200, I don't thin,k this movie has too much hich action scenes.

Blubear 07-27-2004 05:07 PM

I am double checking
 
Hi All,
I know I have addressed this before but I find myself having to double check this to make sure I am inputing the correct figure into CQMatic.

The Question: In Calcumatic:
There is a Section named RESULTS.
The first entry under this is called
AVERAGE BITRATE ****** Kbps
then....
0.57* AVERAGE ******kbps CALCULATE(Button)

Which of these values are copied into CQMatic. I ask because as you change the minimum setting ie. 0.57 to perhaps 0.64 the figure next to it ie average changes.

Is it therefore the value @ AVERAGE BITRATE or the vakue @ 0.57 AVERAGE that is put into CQMatic. I have been inputing the former but my encodes well within resolution limits have returned basicly crappy quality encodes as posted previously. I appreciate this is touching upon another threat / forum but I would ask this question now to see if it allied to the major problems I am Currently experiencing.

Hope someone can help its driving me nuts!!!
Thank You :x

Dialhot 07-27-2004 05:37 PM

Re: I am double checking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blubear
Which of these values are copied into CQMatic. I ask because as you change the minimum setting ie. 0.57 to perhaps 0.64 the figure next to it ie average changes.

There is a "*" near the 0.57. That means that the value that is beside it is "0.57 times AVG", in other words 57% of the AVG ! So that is normal to have this number to change :-).

But I already told you you can forget this setting and use a fixed value as minimum in tmpgenc.

bigggt 07-27-2004 06:44 PM

use this one

Code:

AVERAGE BITRATE ****** Kbps
and as Phil said drop the

Code:

0.57* AVERAGE ******kbps CALCULATE(Button)
as this seems to confuse you :D


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