KVCD: Too large to fit on one cd-R?
 

Hello!
I've done as follows:
-Captured a 62 minutes long DV home video at full quality,app.13,2GB
file size.
-Splitted audio and video with Virtual Dub,so far so good...
-Used HeadAC3he to create MP2 audio
-Got a MP2 file with app. size 102MB.
-Open TMPGNC with the following template:KVCDx3-MPEG-1-PAL with
resolution 528x576 pxl. CQ 60.
-Filesize after encoding 1015MB.+102MB audio file :1117MB

I read on the templates download-page that using the mentioned template,
would give app. 75 min.full screen on one cd?
In this case Ill only be able to fit about 45-50 min o one cd?

Am I doing something terribly wrong somewhere or is this just the way it is??? :?: :roll: (Sorry about my bad english)

Hi there :)
No, you're not doing anything particularly wrong.
But Kwag posted those "75 mintes" based on DVD sources assumption.
That is, I have a 16:9 Widescreen Anamorphic original DVD movie that has 99 minutes and the main VOB
source files only have 5GB.
You are dealing with DV, not DVD, and maybe that's the problem.
It seems your source is very big compared to the example I post.
Or I could be terribly wrong here, too.
Cheers

The amount of minutes per disc depends entirely on the source material. If you got lots of dark scenes with very little motion, you'll get more minutes per disc. If you got a bright, high-action video, you'll get much less.

If you're not already using Avisynth to filter and then frameserve to TMPGEnc, I recommend you do that. Using filters will give you more minutes per disc usually without any visible difference to the original material. In fact, with a capture clip, the filtered result looks better than the original 99% of the time.

Hi,
no I didn't use any filters the first encoding,but I tried to decrease
the CQ setting,still using the same template as mentioned above,but the results was poor VHS quality :oops: !!
So,the next thing to do was reading about/making/testing AviSynth
scripts.Used the latest optimal script (AVI to KVCD) wich I found somewhere in this forum.Changed template to KVCD-CQ-352x288-_PAL
_-PLUS,changed CQ setting to 80,
and got a file wich was 627MB.
Picture quality was very close to DVD. :D
But I got one question,In the script there's a line like this:
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")
I read somewhere that you must change it,depending on the source.
What are the options and how do I find out when to change it??? :?:
Thanks
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Finn

Since you've got a DV source, you most likely have pure interlaced video. If you got a crappy result with 528x576, my guess is that the video was not treated correctly. For example, you should never process interlaced material like progressive, that's asking for trouble.

I'd go for 480x576 (KSVCD) and encode in MPEG-2 as interlaced. If you want to use Avisynth, I can give you a simple script for processing the video.

Yeah,the DV source is interlace,bottom field first I read in TMPGEnc.
It would be great if you have a good script so I can try KSVCD 480x576,mpg2,Interlace encoding.
Here's the script I used last encoding:

LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiler\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiler\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\deen.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiler\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\grip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiler\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiler\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Convolution3DYV12.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiler\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiler\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DctFilter.dll")

AviSource("G:\Captured Video\Video 6 DV.avi",false)
ConvertToYV12()
BlindPP(cpu=4)
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max =3,variance=0.1,seed=1)
Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)
GripCrop(352, 288, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")
Undot()
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
#Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_ma x=10,variance=0.3,seed=5623)
GripBorders()

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Finn

We are talking about this recently.

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=100677#100677

Actually your post inspired me to write a small guide here:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13768

BTW, if you have a high-bitrate DV video, you could try Kwag's optimal script for DVD sources.

EDIT: Pro was faster.. :wink:

Thanks,Ill give it try!
Ill report the results later! :D
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Finn