First time making a KVCD
 

OK, I downloaded the "NTSC 352x240 ULBR (for 360minutes on 1 cd) template." Help me out with the following:

-I plan on playing this KVCD on my "M270 Portable DVD Player (made by AMW)." Will it work? (i'd like to add that it can play VCD/SVCD's)

-I loaded the template in TmpgEnc Plus. I opened the wizard, selected Video-CD NTSC, opened an AVI, and the bitrate setting said that it would take about 28% of the cd. What's with this? Shouldn't it be much much less so that I can fit the whole 360minutes? Should I just ignore it and encode?

Thanx in advance

No, no, no, no.
Your begin is not good.
First, read guides in:

www.kvcd.net

and

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10345

Does that DIKO program take all the work out for me?

Once I get an AVI (compressed with Divx) I load it through, then what?

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14459

Please, for now to the future, do use search engine.

Re: help me out. (first time making a KVCD)
 

I'll add this:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10345

-kwag

OK, i've followed the tutorial, but i've encountered a problem.

I got to the part when I start the conversion in DIKO. I put in my AVI's. Then when I started conversion I got a pop-up error that halted the conversion. Here's the error:

"Could not open avs"

I used the search button and couldn't find an answer to my problem. help me out please.

EDIT: i've opened the avs file in VirtualDub and it revealed this error to me:

"AVI Import Filter Error : (unknown) (80040154)"

Post your script.
Maybe you want to load with avisource a no avi file.
Or perhaps you have some problem with your avi codecs.
Avi plays fine?

By script, you mean. . . .. this?

03:23:16: DIKO Free 0.76 B3
03:23:16: -----------------------------------------------------
03:23:16: *************************
03:23:16: * Getting movie info... *
03:23:16: *************************
03:23:16: -----------------
03:23:16: Processing Movie 0:C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 01.avi+
03:23:16: Script Template: scripts\avi\DialhotV4.avs
03:23:16: Progressive Width: 480 Height 352 A.R.: 1.363636 Framerate: 23.976000 Dest. Framerate: 23.976000 Frames: 33954
03:23:16: Audio type: 85 (MP3), channels: 2 Frequency: 48000 Hz Bitrate 115 kbps
03:23:16: Audio will be reencoded.
03:23:16: Calculated Audio size: 22.127596 Mb
03:23:16: -----------------
03:23:16: Processing Movie 1:C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 02.avi+
03:23:16: Script Template: scripts\avi\DialhotV4.avs
03:23:16: Progressive Width: 480 Height 352 A.R.: 1.363636 Framerate: 23.976000 Dest. Framerate: 23.976000 Frames: 33952
03:23:16: Audio type: 85 (MP3), channels: 2 Frequency: 48000 Hz Bitrate 115 kbps
03:23:16: Audio will be reencoded.
03:23:16: Calculated Audio size: 22.126293 Mb
03:23:16: -----------------
03:23:16: Processing Movie 2:C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 03.avi+
03:23:16: Script Template: scripts\avi\DialhotV4.avs
03:23:16: Progressive Width: 480 Height 352 A.R.: 1.363636 Framerate: 23.976000 Dest. Framerate: 23.976000 Frames: 33971
03:23:16: Audio type: 85 (MP3), channels: 2 Frequency: 48000 Hz Bitrate 115 kbps
03:23:16: Audio will be reencoded.
03:23:16: Calculated Audio size: 22.138675 Mb
03:23:16: -----------------
03:23:16: Processing Movie 3:C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 04.avi+
03:23:16: Script Template: scripts\avi\DialhotV4.avs
03:23:16: Progressive Width: 480 Height 352 A.R.: 1.363636 Framerate: 23.976000 Dest. Framerate: 23.976000 Frames: 33960
03:23:16: Audio type: 85 (MP3), channels: 2 Frequency: 48000 Hz Bitrate 115 kbps
03:23:16: Audio will be reencoded.
03:23:16: Calculated Audio size: 22.131507 Mb
03:23:16: -----------------
03:23:16: Processing Movie 4:C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 05.avi+
03:23:16: Script Template: scripts\avi\DialhotV4.avs
03:23:16: Progressive Width: 480 Height 352 A.R.: 1.363636 Framerate: 23.976000 Dest. Framerate: 23.976000 Frames: 33962
03:23:16: Audio type: 85 (MP3), channels: 2 Frequency: 48000 Hz Bitrate 115 kbps
03:23:16: Audio will be reencoded.
03:23:16: Calculated Audio size: 22.132810 Mb
03:23:17: -----------------
03:23:17: Processing Movie 5:C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 06.avi+
03:23:17: Script Template: scripts\avi\DialhotV4.avs
03:23:17: Progressive Width: 480 Height 352 A.R.: 1.363636 Framerate: 23.976000 Dest. Framerate: 23.976000 Frames: 33950
03:23:17: Audio type: 85 (MP3), channels: 2 Frequency: 48000 Hz Bitrate 115 kbps
03:23:17: Audio will be reencoded.
03:23:17: Calculated Audio size: 22.124990 Mb
03:23:17: -----------------
03:23:17: Processing Movie 6:C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 07.avi+
03:23:17: Script Template: scripts\avi\DialhotV4.avs
03:23:17: Progressive Width: 480 Height 352 A.R.: 1.363636 Framerate: 23.976000 Dest. Framerate: 23.976000 Frames: 34100
03:23:17: Audio type: 85 (MP3), channels: 2 Frequency: 48000 Hz Bitrate 115 kbps
03:23:17: Audio will be reencoded.
03:23:17: Calculated Audio size: 22.222744 Mb
03:23:17: ***************************
03:23:17: * Processing Subtitles... *
03:23:17: ***************************
03:23:17: *******************
03:23:17: * Calculations... *
03:23:17: *******************
03:23:17: Total audio space: 155.004614 Mb
03:23:17: Media Size: 795 Mb
03:23:17: Media count: 1
03:23:17: Mux Overhead: 15 Mb
03:23:17: Remaining space for video: 624.995386 Mb
03:23:17: Total length: 165.338255 minutes
03:23:17: *********************
03:23:17: * Encoding Video... *
03:23:17: *********************
03:23:17: Average Bitrate: 528.496495 kbps
03:23:17: FreeEnc Command-line: "FreeEnc\FreeEnc.exe" -i "C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\Desktop\KVCDmovies\movie0.avs" -o "C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\Desktop\KVCDmovies\movie0.mpv" -1 -b 528 -aspectratio 4:3 -auto -gopsize 24 -maxbitrate 2500 -priority 5 -dc 8 -mpeg2 -scene -hq -maxbframes 2 -kvcd -close

I did a search on yahoo about that error and it looks like I needed a new version of Avisynth. So I got that, and now when I try to start conversion I get this popup error:

"LoadPlugin: "C:\Program Files\DIKO\avisynth plugins\asharp.dll" is not an Avisynth 1.0 plugin"

EDIT: Forgot to mention. . .

The AVI's play fine. There encoded in Divx 3 (DIV3)

I've ran them through VirtualDubMod because the audio header was off.

i've looked into more things and figured out that the plugin doesn't autostart. So I looked into the Avisynth topic area and learned about it in the sticky thread at the top and I set up the thing for it to open automatically, but now I get this popup error when I try to start conversion:

"Avisynth : script open failed!"

The script is the avs file, open it with Notepad, copy there and paste here.

OK, here's the script for the first one:

# Script begins here... #
#########################
#
Avisource("C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Dana II\My Documents\SailorMoon fixed\Sailor Moon Super - 01.avi",false)
AssumeFPS(23.976)
WIDESCREEN=0
Overscan=0
source_widescreen=0
WIDTH=352
HEIGHT=240
INTERLACED=false
converttoyv12()
BlindPP(cpu=4)
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max =3,variance=0.1,seed=1)
Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)
DivXResize(WIDTH, HEIGHT, 0, "LanczosResize",WIDESCREEN)
Undot()
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
#Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_ma x=10,variance=0.3,seed=5623)
DivXBorders(HEIGHT,OVERSCAN)
AddAudio()
Converttoyv12()

I don't know what avisynth version you have but

this message show that you have an old version.

You need avisynth 2.5.4 or greater version.
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/a...5.exe?download

Uninstall previous version and install the new one.

DIKO log show that you want to encode 6 files. Is it true?
As showed in log, your avg bitrate will be 528 (-b 528). This is to low to obtain good results.

Off Topic
@VM: I can see in FreeEnc command line that GOP is set = 24. When we test Mencoder (using libavcodec) talked about best gop size to use would be 15. Why you keep 24.
End OT

I do have the newest version of Avisynth. . .i'm completely sure of this.

I told ya in my 1st post. I wanted to fit as many videos on 1 kvcd as possible. I made the resolution low so that I can fit more. Then when it's done i'll play it on my portable dvd player

Uh, I honestly don't know about that.

This is a message to VMesquita, DIKO developer. Keep waiting for him and we'll see what he say.

@all,
Since DIKO only uses CCE or FreeEnc I wouldn't try to use it for low bitrate encodings with many movies.
For LBR/U-LBR RichManDash should use Tmpgenc.
But since you're starting it is probably best to start with DIKO, getting to know it's tools and then go for bigger fish.
Try with 1 or 2 movies to upper the bitrate a little, just to see the good results.
@VM,
Yes I think GOP=24 is not a very good thing to use with Libavcodec based encoders. Can you clarify this V?. Thanks :)
Cheers

ok, then I guess i'll wait till the DIKO developer posts here. . .

I really want to make a kvcd that can hold 360 minutes of vicdeo on 1 cd-r. It'd be nice so that I could fit 10-14 episodes of anime on 1 cd-r rather than just 3 (when making a regular vcd)

Forget it.

If you make it a DIKO issue by saying that you'll just wait for vmesquita to post here then I'll have to see that this thread is splitt and pasted at the DIKO forum.
Now, are the error messages gone?
Cheers

no, there are still errors

what do you guys think of ympeg? That codec thing that goes in with Virtualdub. I read a bit about it and that just might solve my problem.

I run my video's through virtualdub with ympeg, then encode it to mpg using TmpgEnc with the 360minutes kvcd template, then burn the mpg as a vcd. Would that work?

Hi RichManDash,
Either you encode in Vdub with YMPEG or you encode directly in tmpgenc.
You don't use both at the same time.
Unless you want to use tmpgenc just to mux your audio and video since it has a multiplexer.
But when it comes to multiplexing I would always prefer bbMpeg as it seems it's more compatible.
So tell us about your error messages.
Are those still the same?
Cheers

Same errors. I haven't messed with it at all, so look at my other posts for the errors I had in DIKO.

So if I encode the video in TMPGenc with the 360minute template. should I use the wizard, or do it manually?

I don't need to do any multiplexing.

EDIT:

Nevermind everything i've said before this post. I've figured out everything I need except one little thing.

After I encoded the AVI through tmpgenc (with the 360minute template), I selected Video CD in Nero so that I could put the mpg in and burn it, but Nero said that the video wasn't "video cd compliant" and that it would try to re-encode it. Obviously, I don't want nero to re-encode.

How can I burn the mpeg without Nero trying to re-encode it?

Double Edit: ^_^'

I've solved the problem. I just had to use a burning program called VCDeasy. The results surprise me. On my main dvd player, it is a bit blurry, but no complaints.. . . .but when I play it on my portable dvd player it looks perfect!! I'm very happy. This was just a test, I only threw 1 episode in a cd-rw. Later on i'll tell you how many episodes I'm able to fit in 1 cd-r. I'm hoping for "at least" 10 episodes. (each episode is about 20-25minutes long)

Just don't go expecting too much quality, though.
Just remember your encoding from a previous encode which already was lossy.
And you're going for too much video data IMHO.
Anyway I hope it is satisfying for you.
Cheers

it turns out, I can only fit 7 episodes(roughly 20-25 minutes each) onto one kvcd. Where's my 360 minutes that was mentioned on the page I downloaded the template from?

This is better than a normal vcd since i'm getting 7 instead of 3, but I thought I would be able to fit at least 10 like I originally thought.

It is not "360 minutes" it is "up to 360 minutes". That makes a big difference.
Mainly, you will never reach this if your source is fullscreen. The values are given for 2.35 material (black borders are very easy to compress ;-)).

How are your sources ?