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cyron 11-08-2004 06:19 AM

Moving from ksvcd to kdvd
 
i was converting to ksvcd, but now i bought a DVD-RW and i wanna create 4-5 movies on same dvd, what is the diffrence between this 2 ?

Dialhot 11-08-2004 06:25 AM

The audio must be 48Khz. And the video resolution should be 352*480(576) or 704(576) only. All other resolutions aren't standard on DVD and all standalones won't play them. But you can try them with your own player.

Note: now you are on DVD, let change your quality level and do not go above 3 movies per disc.

cyron 11-08-2004 06:43 AM

hi phil

so all the process is the same, just use a kdvd template and dvd resolution in the script ?

make 3 movie ready and then put them all on dvd using VCDEasy creating menu for choosing a movie ?

Dialhot 11-08-2004 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
hi phil

so all the process is the same, just use a kdvd template and dvd resolution in the script ?

make 3 movie ready and then put them all on dvd using VCDEasy creating menu for choosing a movie ?

All is the same except that you won't use VCDEasy for authoring the disc (it can do DVD) but something like DVDLabPro (free for 30 days) or tmpgenc DVD author...

fragmaster170 11-08-2004 07:38 AM

assuming you used video at that resolution and audio at 48khz, can you just remux it and burn it to a dvd?

Dialhot 11-08-2004 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragmaster170
assuming you used video at that resolution and audio at 48khz, can you just remux it and burn it to a dvd?

You don't even have to remux manually : open directely the MPEG into DVDLabo pro or an other authoring tool and they will remux them while they add the menu and do the DVD structure.

cyron 11-08-2004 08:11 AM

i understand that the conversion process is similar, but the autoring and burning is diffrent, i dont realy know how to use DVD-Lab (or other autoring tool) can anyone help ?

Dialhot 11-08-2004 08:15 AM

Help you first and then we will :!: I mean : DL the tools, open then and if you have questions, ask.

DVDLabo pro is a little bit touchy but you have a complete help on Mediachance site (http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/tutorial/index.html).

TMGEnc is nothing but Drag/Drop and use of pre-defined templates.

cyron 11-08-2004 08:43 AM

sorry... :roll:

thanks for the help

cyron 11-11-2004 06:50 PM

another quastion about the conversion of avi to mpeg for DVD-R, in CQ matic when i calculate the bitrate what should i choose in Media-target ?

kwag 11-11-2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
in CQ matic when i calculate the bitrate what should i choose in Media-target ?

If your target is a regular DVD (4.7GB), choose 4.7GB (DVD-5)

-kwag

fabrice 11-11-2004 11:53 PM

Or if you want to put 2 or 3 movies on the DVD, just use the custom size with what you want.

Salu2
Fabrice

cyron 11-12-2004 03:42 AM

hi

i want to use 1 DVD for 4-5h of movie so the quality will be good, i didnt understand how to do the calculation in CQ, its diffrent from the ksvcd that i used to do cuz now its not 1 movie and kdvd, i want 2-3 movies

kwag 11-12-2004 10:44 AM

Hi cyron,

It's simple :)
Add the total time of your movies and enter that information into CalcuMatic.
For example, if your total time is 5 hours (300 minutes), and you want the audio to be 192Kbps (for all movies), this is what you would enter in CalcuMatic:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif

-kwag

cyron 11-12-2004 11:10 AM

the avrage bitrate should be divded into number of movies ?
like in the picture 1800 is not for 1 movie, right ?

kwag 11-12-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
the avrage bitrate should be divded into number of movies ?
like in the picture 1800 is not for 1 movie, right ?

That's the average bitrate you want to use to encode all of your movies :)
Then they will all fit on one DVD.

-kwag

cyron 11-12-2004 12:24 PM

thanks for the help. 8)

ill make some testing, its the best way for learning.

cyron 11-12-2004 12:34 PM

1800 kbps is much higher then the bitrate i used to get on k[s]vcd :)

cyron 11-12-2004 01:19 PM

after i finish the script i open it in TMPGEnc and load the template, but now in kdvd teplate i got extra options in: Setting->Advanced->'Source Aspect Ratio', what should i choose there ?

kwag 11-12-2004 05:30 PM

"Full Screen", because the script already resizes to the correct aspect.

-kwag

cyron 11-12-2004 06:29 PM

why on skvcd i used center and now its full screen, whats the diffrent in the final file and its quality ?

Dialhot 11-12-2004 06:59 PM

In the present case (usage of an avs script that does the resize), center and full screen will give the exact same result.

Kwag answered first but if I was the first one to answer, I would have answered to you to use "center" ;-)

cyron 11-12-2004 07:03 PM

hi phil

how many hour's u recomand on 1 DVD-R ?

Dialhot 11-12-2004 07:27 PM

I personally try to not go above 4h in 704*576 and 6h in 544*576 (not standard, be carrefull).

This is for KDVD with 2 audio streams at 384 Kbp/s for each movie.

fragmaster170 11-12-2004 09:47 PM

thanks a lot dialhot, DVD Lab Pro worked like a charm.

cyron 11-13-2004 06:00 AM

im using besweet to convert the sound, but i used to do 44.1khz, now i need 48khz, but no luck doing it, how can i do it in besweet ?

Prodater64 11-13-2004 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
im using besweet to convert the sound, but i used to do 44.1khz, now i need 48khz, but no luck doing it, how can i do it in besweet ?

You must to check box "downconvert sample rate", but also configurate it to 48000 in ssrc (button grayed in folowing picture.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/error.gif

If your source is DVD, audio is at 48000 Hz. Just keep unchecked "downconvert sample rate" box.

cyron 11-13-2004 07:11 AM

10x :)

cyron 11-13-2004 07:33 AM

i got this error msg when multiplexing: "258078 s packets cause buffer underflow. the MPEG file might cause error when it played."

Prodater64 11-13-2004 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
i got this error msg when multiplexing: "258078 s packets cause buffer underflow. the MPEG file might cause error when it played."

Use bbmpeg and set "forced mux rate" = 0



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cyron 11-13-2004 09:04 AM

i dont realy know bbmpeg, i mean to use it for the multiplex insted of the mpegenc ?

Prodater64 11-13-2004 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
i dont realy know bbmpeg, i mean to use it for the multiplex insted of the mpegenc ?

If you got that overflow messages, then use bbmpeg.

cyron 11-13-2004 09:16 AM

when doing kdvd what should i choose in: 'program stream type' ?
how do i add the sound file into bbmpeg ?

humm...doing KDVD is much more complicated then ksvcd :?

Prodater64 11-13-2004 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
when doing kdvd what should i choose in: 'program stream type' ?
how do i add the sound file into bbmpeg ?

If you are doing KDVD you don't need to multiplex.
DVD authoring programs will take audio and video elementary streams (m2v, mp2 or ac3).
You can multiplex anyway to check A-V sync. In this case select DVD.

cyron 11-13-2004 09:31 AM

i can load the mpg and mp2 file into DVD-Lab and it will do the trick ?

Prodater64 11-13-2004 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyron
i can load the mpg and mp2 file into DVD-Lab and it will do the trick ?

Not the mpg, but m2v (or mpv, video elementary stream without audio) and mp2 (or ac3).
I don't know DVD-Lab, but many DVD authoring software, if you give it a mpg (muxed), it will demux it anyway, it is a double lost of time, as you multiplexed for to be demuxed again.

cyron 11-13-2004 10:00 AM

thank alot Prodater64 :)
im sorry for all the quastion, its just im new at this KDVD...


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