What is the CCE SP best encoding type and prediction?
 

What is the CCE SP better way related to encoding type and prediction.

Are the following tools useful?
http://www.autoq.net.tc/

I use Tylo's CCEFront. I create an ecl file in CCE as usual and then run CCE via CCEFront with parameter -roba.

It will predict and do an OPV encode and a sizing VBR pass if necessary. You can set the upper and lower limits for the sizing pass to occur. I've found out that 3% sample size and 3% size adjustment hit the target more often than with the default 1% and 1.4% respectively. The good thing is that the defaults can be set via an ini file so you'll just need the -roba parameter if you already have an ecl file.

IMO AutoQ is a piece of crap. I really don't think Amnon82/Avalon/whatever ever really tested his prediction engine. He just did the predictions but never ran a full encode. AFAIK his program also doesn't do the sizing pass so you'll have to do it manually unless the program hits close enough to the target with the OPV pass.

@Boulder

Hi, mate! Could you post a .ecl file that you have got used it ? In this way I could to use as template for my encondings using new CCE 2.70 and CCEFront by Tylo?

TIA,

There's really nothing special about the ecls I use. Besides, you'll need to adjust the ecl according to the source. The average bitrate is what CCEFront will target in the OPV and sizing pass.

I use CCE 2.70 since a few weeks and the old reg that vmesquita did for 2.67 works... almost. The only thing to adjust is the encoding mode (even if it is set to OPV in the reg, CCE 2.70 shows it as CBR -> change this) and change the DC precision also.

Once you loaded, fixed and saved back the template, you can create your own ecl.

@Boulder

Thanks a lot, fella :!: :D

@Dialhot

Merci, camarade :!: :D

I don't know nothing about CCE. How can I must to do a ecl file?

If you use CSP prior to 2.66, and ecl is the only way to open an avs.
Starting with 2.66, it's not more necessary but an ecl can sttil be done, to save the parameters. It's like saving a tmpgenc project into a text file : you do not need to do that, but you have the possibility to do..

Yes, but what parameters set, when that window pop up?
encoding mode, etc., etc.
Also I know how to change the matrix inside ecl. :D

All right, all right.

http://www.saunalahti.fi/sam08/progressive.reg
http://www.saunalahti.fi/sam08/interlaced.reg

Thank you mate.
Excuse this noob, please. :D

Go on vmesquita site, and retrieve the guide he did for KDVD using CCE. You will find with it 2 reg file that define templates for KVCD and KDVD into CCE. All settings are done in them, including the matrix :)
(the guide explain how to use them)

Yes, but I didn't understand what I have to change (that you say in a post before).

So you have CCE 2.70 ?
Okay. Load the template form VM into your registry. Then open the CCE. In the template menu you will find a new entry for KDVD and one for KVCD ([b]BE CAREFULL: VM reg files remove all templates delivered by CCE. But they are useless IMHO)

Select the KDVD template twice, this will open the window to change the template. There you can see that the encoding mode is CBR. Change it to 1-pass VBR. Change the DC precision to 8. Save the template.

Now, to encode a KDVD, just check that "KDVD" template is selected in the template menu and simply drag/drop you avs in the CCE window. All settings of the selected template will be applied to this job.

Thanks Phil.

@Boulder

I agree with you on AutoQ I have tested but was overly impressed.

I use Johnny's QCCE I like it's prediction method and it's pretty close for getting predicting results.

How do you find QCCE Boulder, do u like this tool also?

I did use QCCE quite a lot before CCE 2.70 came along. Amnon's tool is a ripoff actually :wink: The only thing I found a little annoying was that the prediction is a bit slow due to the binary approach, and that you can't run a sizing pass if the OPV encode is off the target.

OT-On:
I just keep wondering why doom (owner) permits Avalon (alias Amnon) on his site, when he is clearly aware of all the things he has ripped off :roll:
OT-Off

-kwag

He's probably noticed that in the end they tend to be crap. A pile of bugs and weird behaviour - and it looks like he doesn't care much about MPEG2 stuff anyway. That OPV comment on the D9 front page was a little weird :roll:

@Boulder

ccefront is really a killer app ! 8O But I just wonder why in the sizepass the app don't call the rejig (transcoder) if I´ve chosen mode=2 ("transcode if opv size > 0%). For now, ccefront is doing all encoding again (no transcoding).

I´ve used:

and the roba's section in ccefront.ini follows down:

log.txt for first OPV:

log.txt for "sizing pass":
note: the encoding hasn't finished !!!

Should be a bug in ccefront?

TIA,