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Prodater64 06-04-2005 09:09 PM

HC-Qmatic
 
Notice: Q prediction is not working fine by now, doubt to how HC Encoder manage bitrate when used with cqmaxbitrate parameter. Use only for test until new notice.

Updated: v.1.1b - 3 decimal place precission, popup log, log in cmd window, rejig if oversize. You must to test it.
Despite precission is 3 decimal places, it seems that HCBatch *CQMAXBITRATE function does prediction a little bit hard.
I reach +/- 2% precission. You must to test it.

HC-Qmatic 1.1b mirror 1

HC-Qmatic permits you to load an avs script an encode it with HC Encoder in Q mode, doing previously some prediction encodings that will take about 10-12% of the whole movie. (OPV with prediction)
It uses the Incredible's slicer routine and a ping-pong prediction.
HC-Qmatic link you to other programs, often used when doing digital video encoding: DVDDecrypter, DVD2AVI, AC3 Delay Corrector (file step file or massive correction), BeSweet, SubRip, Calcumatic, etc.
Also permits you create a batchlist for video encoding, edit that list an encode it. With this more calcumatic, you can encode a 2 or 3 movies DVD backup.
You can do too, batchlist audio encoding in a special way.
At last, you can edit the avs file loaded in the internal filebrowser texbox, and the HC.ini file.
It has a Stop button to end all tasks in course (if you want to end all tasks, press that button, not press HC Encoder exit button.
At first run, you need to set paths to programs.
I recommend you Calcumatic as calculator, but you can to use anyone.
Unzip it in HCBatch*.exe folder (I used 0.14 version). It must to be there also a valid HC.ini file.
End precission, in my tests, is between 0 and 4 % (downsized) of difference, more times between 0-2 %. I did about 10 test encodes.
It works with Windows XP.

HC-Qmatic 1.1b mirror 1

You need VB6 runtime routines only if you have not it yet and just in case tabctl32.ocx mirror 1 or tabctl32.ocx mirror 2.

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Zyphon 06-05-2005 01:55 AM

Hi Pro,

Great work, thank you. I use Inc's slicer() routine for my prediction and it is excellent.

I am glad that you implemented this routing into your tool, can't wait to do some tests nice work. ;)

incredible 06-05-2005 03:40 AM

ESO! :)

Thats a nice shot Pro!

Prodater64 06-05-2005 09:11 AM

:D

kwag 06-05-2005 11:36 AM

Talk about a LOOONG batch file 8O :!:
Great work Luis :cool:

-kwag

Prodater64 06-05-2005 11:48 AM

I did an encode and result was -8 % file.
I should to check it. Well, for this is beta, isn't it?

Prodater64 06-05-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
Talk about a LOOONG batch file 8O :!:
Great work Luis :cool:

-kwag

Almost all my tools have some VB6 part and some batch file. But always I convert bat file in exe one. With this one, I can't to convert it to exe as it don't work fine.
But it works well anyway.

incredible 06-05-2005 12:20 PM

You could also apply an Long_short option to slicer in your appl.
So it will get even more precise.

1. Ping 5%
2. Pong 5%

3. Ping 2%
4. Pong 2%

5. Ping 2%
6. Ping 2%
7. Ping 2%
8. Ping 2%
9. Ping 2% ---- match! (math. difference to first Pong and to 5% Slicing included )

Prodater64 06-05-2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
You could also apply an Long_short option to slicer in your appl.
So it will get even more precise.

1. Ping 5%
2. Pong 5%

3. Ping 2%
4. Pong 2%

5. Ping 2%
6. Ping 2%
7. Ping 2%
8. Ping 2%
9. Ping 2% ---- match! (math. difference to first Pong and to 5% Slicing included )

Sorry I don't understand.
With what match ping 9?
Could you do use numbers?

Prodater64 06-10-2005 12:19 PM

Now I'm fixing some bugs as some buttons not responding.
I'll post an update soon.

@Inc: Did you read my last question?

incredible 06-10-2005 12:43 PM

Yep, and I answered in the PingPong Thread ....

Prodater64 06-16-2005 09:23 AM

Updated v. 1.1b
It is still beta. You must to test it.

jason 02-28-2006 11:26 AM

Hi Prodater,

Is HC Qmatic still available ?
I'm testing HC Enc, right now.
Thanks.

Edit : Nevermind, I've just dl ProCalc.
Thanks. :)

este 11-24-2006 01:39 PM

Hi,

is HC-Qmatic still available and/or under development?
Also ProCalc ASPA is not downloadable.

Is there any other tool for prediction?
Can someone give me a link?

este

Dialhot 11-24-2006 04:51 PM

I'm currently working on an HC-Matic completly different than Pro's one but don't expect it too soon unfortunally.
BTW, Pro is more often on Diko forums, perhaps you can find him there and ask him about where to DL his tools now.
(www.vmesquita.com).

Prodater64 11-26-2006 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
I'm currently working on an HC-Matic completly different than Pro's one but don't expect it too soon unfortunally.
BTW, Pro is more often on Diko forums, perhaps you can find him there and ask him about where to DL his tools now.
(www.vmesquita.com).

Not really, i do spend similar time in both forums (few time in both :) ).



Here it is: http://download.yousendit.com/CAAE81F061E09E9B

Dialhot 11-27-2006 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodater64
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
I'm currently working on an HC-Matic completly different than Pro's one but don't expect it too soon unfortunally.
BTW, Pro is more often on Diko forums, perhaps you can find him there and ask him about where to DL his tools now.
(www.vmesquita.com).

Not really, i do spend similar time in both forums (few time in both :) ).



Here it is: http://download.yousendit.com/CAAE81F061E09E9B

Do you want me to host it on kvcd.net ?

rds_correia 12-01-2006 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
I'm currently working on an HC-Matic completly different than Pro's one but don't expect it too soon unfortunally.

Woohooo! :D
Can you tell us what will be featuring HC-Matic?
Is it going to be the exact same principle of CQMatic?
What are you going to use? PureBasic?
Cheers

Dialhot 12-01-2006 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia
Can you tell us what will be featuring HC-Matic?
Is it going to be the exact same principle of CQMatic?
What are you going to use? PureBasic?
Cheers

The idea is to combine KDVDCalc (the tool Vmesquita did a log time ago) CQMatic and Calcumatic in a single app, but using HC as encoder insteed of Tmpgenc. The goal is to be abble to predict for an episode DVD, or a disc with several movies, in a single operation.

But... I lost 3 days trying to build something from CQ/Calcumatic sources instead of from scratch. That was a bad idea and I just redoing all from the begining now.

Dialhot 01-03-2007 06:30 PM

Just to let you know that my tool (HCMatic) is working well. I just have to add a panel to set the parameters wanted for HC as for the moment everything is fixed in the tool and can't be changed (DC Prec, A/R, Max bitrate, GOP length...).

Here is a snapshot :
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2007/01/1.png

You can see the prediction (still running) for an 8 ep KDVD. The value 1588 at the bottom is the average bitrate to reach, all audio are set to "224" as I plan to use 2 streams, 112kbit/s each. On the right there is the log with : Q value tested, avg obtained for each source at this Q and overall average, then new Q value...

I did 3 complete discs till now : one two movies DVD that reached 4.63 GB after authoring, one 1-movie that hit exactly 4.7 (:-)) and an 8-ep disc that was slightly oversized (4.79 GB). Stay tuned...

rds_correia 01-06-2007 11:42 AM

That's about time someone builds a good prediction tool for HC :bow:
Go for it Phil! :)

kwag 01-06-2007 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia
Go for it Phil! :)

I was going to say those exact words :lol:

-kwag

rainer 01-12-2007 06:16 PM

come on! give us a little tip when are we going to see the first public release?!?

rds_correia 01-14-2007 09:13 AM

Aaah, rainer, not to be an ******* or anything but as I understand it Phil is not a professional code developer.
For sure he has a hard time looking out for the forum as The Admin and also to experiment with HC-Matic in his leisure time.
So if I were you I wouldn't pressure him at all if I wanted to see his "baby" rockin' HC and my movies.
Besides, Karl's CQMatic is now open-source.
If you're in a hurry you can always take his sources and adapt them to HC ;).
Cheers

Dialhot 01-14-2007 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainer
come on! give us a little tip when are we going to see the first public release?!?

Don't worry, the tool is finished. Just have to replace the usage of "Sampler" by a "SelectRangeEvery" because I forgot that Sampler is an external plugin that not everyone has. I'm on it today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia
Aaah, rainer, not to be an as*hole or anything but as I understand it Phil is not a professional code developer.

I don't think Rainer wanted to be rude. And to explain why it is so long : I do not developp the tool using garbage samples, I'm using it to do my real encodes that I actually burn on DVD afterwards. My PC needs 18h to encode a 8 ep disc. In other words I can barely do one test a day.

Edit : and I am a profesionnal code developper. That's my job since 11 years and what I'm doing since 23 years, even if I'm now more perl guru and Unix administration specialist than a Basic expert :)

Snapshot of the tool now (as you can see I have an encoding running ;))
http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2007/01/2.png

rds_correia 01-14-2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
I don't think Rainer wanted to be rude.

Me neither but you know, usually when someone posts something like he did you get 4 or 5 jerks in the same thread asking the same thing in a rude way.
This was not the case but I was just playing it safe ;).
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
Edit : and I am a profesionnal code developper.

:douh:
Me and my big mouth :lol:.

Dialhot 01-17-2007 10:37 AM

HCMatic 1.0 is out :!:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=126617

Prodater64 01-17-2007 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodater64
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
I'm currently working on an HC-Matic completly different than Pro's one but don't expect it too soon unfortunally.
BTW, Pro is more often on Diko forums, perhaps you can find him there and ask him about where to DL his tools now.
(www.vmesquita.com).

Not really, i do spend similar time in both forums (few time in both :) ).



Here it is: http://download.yousendit.com/CAAE81F061E09E9B

Do you want me to host it on kvcd.net ?

Sorry, I missed that post before.
What do you mean? I don't understood.
Congrat. for your new tool, I'l give a try soon.

Dialhot 01-17-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodater64
Sorry, I missed that post before.
What do you mean? I don't understood.
Congrat. for your new tool, I'l give a try soon.

I just meant bluehost (the provider that hosts kvcd.net) allows 15 GB of disc space, so I can put your tool here and it will be available at http://www.kvcd.net/downloads/...

nicksteel 01-18-2007 06:42 PM

Phil, how can I handle AC3 files which I mux with DVDLab Pro?

Dialhot 01-18-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicksteel
Phil, how can I handle AC3 files which I mux with DVDLab Pro?

What ? What are you talking about ? Why this question there ?

nicksteel 01-18-2007 08:21 PM

Sorry, wasn't very clear. With HC-Matic, I can enter data for compressed audio. When I want to use AC3 (uncompressed to MP2), my computed Audio size is too small and Video size too big. A possible mod would be to allow input of AC3 size and computing a the balance of media size for Video size.

Edited:

Sorry, finally discovered you're one step ahead of me. Custom size! :oops: :oops: :oops:

Dialhot 01-19-2007 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicksteel
Sorry, wasn't very clear. With HC-Matic,

So you missed that this thread is not for "my" HCMatic :). There is a brand new forum section for it ! :lol:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=97

I answered to you in this new toppic, please go there to continue :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/posting.ph...tpost&p=126657


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