Settings in RB-OPT 0.17 Beta for my KDVDs?
Hi Guys,
I just wanted to know what are the optimal settings for RB-OPT version 0.17 Beta when used with DVD-RB. I have DVD-RB Pro version 0.93.2 and I usually use the 3 click mode to make my backups and use RB-OPT for OPV prediction and KDVD template for CCE. I am backup up my 'Planet of the Apes TV Series" which comes on 4 DVD's and the first 3 DVD's have 4 episodes with the last DVD having just 2 episodes. My source is PAL and as so I assume Progressive. There are 4 VOB-ID's (1 ID per episode I presume) which are: VTS 1 - Vob-ID 1 VTS 1 - Vob-ID 2 VTS 1 - Vob-ID 3 VTS 1 - Vob-ID 4 Do I leave these 4 eps seperate or do I join them as one ID? The reason I ask is I didn't I treated them one at a time and did the settings seperately. These are the settings I use: Click the OPV radio button. Click the CCE Settings button. Then: Passes: 2 DC PRecision: 8 Gop Length: 15 Block Scan Order: Zig-Zag <--Although I am not sure of this setting whether it should be Alternative or not. Progressive: Haven't a clue, I assume I have to tick it as my source is Progressive. Min Bitrate: 64 Max Bitrate: 6500 Quantization Matrices: Custom, KDVD I don't touch any other of the settings in RB-OPT, is this correct. In OPV Prediction Predictions options. Sample size: 1 Safety Margin: 2 GOPs per range: 3 Double Pass: Unticked Launched Encoder Minimised: Ticked Hit predict. I was gettings Q's of about 69-70 per VOB-ID's, I thought this was bad. I set up DVD-RB Pro as SansGrip said in this post ages ago, although the options have slightly changed now it seems. Can someone please tell if I have done this correct as I haven't backup up a DVD for ages and sort of forgotten how to use this tool. :D |
What you did is almost the optimal. But what is important to know is :
- do you used some filters in the advanced avisynth option of DVD-RB ? If not you should at least put : Code:
RemoveGrain() BTW what I'd suggest is to change the maxium video bitrate to 6000, or even 4500 if you have more than 3 hours (remember that KDVD is correct with 4 hours in widescreen, but no more than 3h in full screen !) |
Hi Phil,
Again thank you so much for your rapid resonse I appreciate your help and wisdom. Each episode is 0:47:47. Approx 3hrs and 12 mins. Can you please explain to me what the Letterbox line is for Phil as I don't really understand. Where would I add these lines Phil at the end? Here is the AviSynth default script (In RB-Opt): Code:
1 - #------------------ Aspect ratio: 1.33:1 Full Frame: 4:3 |
Hi Phil,
I just downloaded RemoveGrain for the site: http://www.removegrain.de.tf/ I hope that is the correct url. I am confused there are 12 .dll files in there. Do I extract all the files in the zip to my AviSynth plugin folder or just the RemoveGrain.dll I appreciate your help on this matter. |
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The letterbox command put black pixels all arround the picture. As these pixels won't be displayed on the TV, the black ones will be compressed a lot more than the original pixels of the picture. Quote:
Option -> Avisynth option -> advanced -> filters (something like this. I'm using DVD-RB right now so the menu is grayed and I can't check) Quote:
Filters + max videobitrate to 4500 will be better. |
Thanks again Phil for your answers.
I remember now from SansGrip post that you suggested 4500 as a max, I forgot and put 6500 instead. Thanks for clearing that up for me along with the Letterbox command now I understand. I appreciate your wisdom. On the RemoveGrain front I have a Pentium 3 so which one do I use and do I extract all the files or just certain ones. Also there is repair.dll & SSETools.dll what are these? Thanks again Phil. |
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Second, I have a pentium 4, with SSE2, and I use only RemovegrainSS2.dll. I guess that with a P3 you need to use only RemoveGrain.dll. Quote:
(but you don't have SSE2 so I guess this is not for you anyway). Note: I didn't see that : Code:
8 - ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) (Again, this is in DVD-RB that you fix that. you have to uncheck two options that are checked by default). Line 8 was for CCE 2.50. Line 9 is needed only on an Athlon ! This is not your case. |
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I just checked the options in DVD-RB here is what I have: AVS Options: ConvertToYUY2(): Ticked AudioDub(BlankClip()): Ticked Filter Editor: Selecting this pops up a box where I can add my script which will appear after the trim() line it says. Then click Save & Exit. Deinterlace with DECOMB: Unticked Set Decoder iDCT: Decoder Default Disable Interlace: <--- Should I put a checkmark against 'Apply to All' this is unticked at present and my source being Progressive I thought I should tick it? |
The filters have to be put into the Filter Editor (paste the three line I gave to you into the widow that pops up)
And the two first "tickled" options are the two one you have to untickle. Edit: about disable interlace : it seems that here DVD-RB detects that your source is not progressive - see the "interlaced = true" put in the "ConvertoYUY2 line- . If you are sure that it is, then yes you have to check this option. But generally it is not necessary (I never had to check it). |
Again Phil thank you so much for your time and patients with me you have taught me so much and now hopefully I can go away and produce a great quality back up.
I really appreciate your answers thank you Phil. :) |
You're welcome.
BTW, as we are talking about DVD-RB : there is a incompatibility with it and DVDDecrypter 3.5.4 (I didn't have this before).! The two DVD I did since I have 3.5.4 and dvd-RB 0.93 suffer the same problem : DVD-RB do not read the correct length for the movie (it told the movie was 777 MB insteed of 4.6 GB !) I solved this by using DVDShrink to ripp the DVD insteed of DVDDecrypter. |
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Do u think future updates of DVD-RB will solve this problem? |
Hi Phil,
I don't know if this problem has been fixed in the updated version. I have the Pro 0.93.2 version and I read this from the Rebuilder Readme: Quote:
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Hi Phil,
I haven't had any probs yet I will let you know on this thread if things don't work out correctly. :) |
Hi Phil,
I just ran my VOBs of my DVD through DGIndex and hit the F5 button and previewed my video and it has reported the Frame Type as Interlaced. The reason I checked this is because when checking my script in RB-Opt the last line said this: "11 - ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)" So I had to quickly check this in DGIndex to confirm if it is Interlaced. EDIT: So I made sure that Progressive is Unticked in RB-Opt CCE Settings. EDIT2: Is ZigZag still the best method to use if the source is Interlaced or does this not matter what the source is? |
Phil I got this error for CCE SP Trail 2.67 (Using EclCCE.exe):
Frame size 796x56 is not supported. Supported frame sizes up to 720x576 Here is my script in RB-Opt: Code:
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I think the error lies with RemoveGrain.
I looked at the script in WMP and I got this error: unable to load plugin. |
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I took a section from the RemoveGrain Readme regarding ColorSpaces and YUY2()
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