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knews2 11-14-2002 08:05 PM

KVCD: mpeg-1 vcds instead of nonstandard?
 
THe only way i can get the kvcd templates to work with my dvd player is if i encode them as mpeg-1 vcds instead of nonstandard because then they will speed up and fastforward. When i try encoding as standard mpeg-1 vcd i have to lower cq but it doesn't seem to lower the size of my movie so is there any help out there for me can someone please reply to this. is there anyway for you all to make a template for avi movies instead of just dvd rips and for standard vcds instead of encoding as a non standard i tried and tried and almost got it but my movie stop playing about 30 minutes before the movie was over and it was a 900+ mb file and i think thats the problem. the only problem i have is trying to lower the file size so kwag or anyone can you please reply to me asap with you answers thanks. i really would appreciate it this time since no one replied the last time. :?

kwag 11-14-2002 08:10 PM

Hi knews2,

Ok, we need to know more information.

What brand is your DVD player?
What process did you use to encode?
What template?
Did you process directly reading the .d2v with TMPEG, or did you make a .avs script and process that.
Did you use DVD2AVI, and used "Force FILM" or not.

Give us a rundown of what you've done, so that we can trace the problem.

-kwag

knews2 11-14-2002 08:23 PM

thanks for the fast reply
i have a zenith dvd2201 dvd player i used the KVCD-CQ-352x240-_NTSCFilm_.mcf template to encode. The first movie i had was of course an .avi i encoded it first with a cq of 50 and i went to settings, system, and changed the stream type to mpeg-1 VideoCd and that was it and i encoded and it came out to a 900+ mb file and i burned it using cdrwin5 at 4x speed and that was it. It played on my dvd player but near the end of the movie with like 35 minutes left it jsut stopped

kwag 11-14-2002 08:33 PM

Ok, you did burn to a 90 or 99 minute CD-R right?.
If you did, it means that your DVD player doesn't support that long media. That's why it didn't play all the way to the end.
If your media is 80 minute, there's no way to burn that mpeg file. Not even with overburning.

-kwag

knews2 11-14-2002 08:34 PM

also right now i have a 2 disc svcd movie so can you give me some assistance on converting this on 1 disc to play in my dvd palyer thank you

knews2 11-14-2002 08:36 PM

i only had a 80 minute disc but i want to knw is there any oother way to lower the size of the file besides lowering the cq because at some points that definately didn't work.

kwag 11-14-2002 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knews2
also right now i have a 2 disc svcd movie so can you give me some assistance on converting this on 1 disc to play in my dvd palyer thank you

Try re-encoding with the LBR template. That's probably the best choice to get a two disk SVCD into one CD-R.

-kwag

knews2 11-14-2002 10:19 PM

is there anyway for you all to experiment with making a template thats compatible with encoding using tmpengc making a standard mpeg-1 videoCd instead of every template supporting non-standard. Thats the problem with the template thats why i have to encode using non-standard and getting a bigger file. Is there anyway for taht to happen.please get back asap.thanks kwag.

kwag 11-14-2002 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knews2
is there anyway for you all to experiment with making a template thats compatible with encoding using tmpengc making a standard mpeg-1 videoCd instead of every template supporting non-standard. Thats the problem with the template thats why i have to encode using non-standard and getting a bigger file. Is there anyway for taht to happen.please get back asap.thanks kwag.

If you encode as standard VCD, you're encoding at constant bit rate. That's why your file is so large. You must encode as non-standard VCD, in order to take advantage of variable bit rate.

-kwag

knews2 11-15-2002 07:06 AM

i understand thta but what im saying is can you create a template so you can encode as mpeg-1 videocd thats standard my dvd player won't suppport a movie being encoded as nonstandard. thats the only problem i have.

kwag 11-15-2002 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knews2
i understand thta but what im saying is can you create a template so you can encode as mpeg-1 videocd thats standard my dvd player won't suppport a movie being encoded as nonstandard. thats the only problem i have.

Try something. If you encode with the LBR template, the mpeg you create, will be read by VCDEay as a "standard" VCD. Is passes the "Analyze Mpeg files" and the "Perform some Mpeg compliance checks" phase. So you encode with the LBR template as it is, and burn with VCDEasy as a "Standard" VCD. If this doesn't play on your standalone, I'm afraid to tell you that probably your DVD player sticks to very strict VCD parameters, and KVCD's won't play :(


-kwag

Boulder 11-15-2002 12:10 PM

One possible solution is encoding the file just as Kwag said and then muxing it as SVCD with bbMPEG. Some people have got their files working that way.

knews2 11-15-2002 01:35 PM

ok but when i use vcdeasy it does n't work. it says something about my aspi drives.but ill try that thanks kwag.

kwag 11-15-2002 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knews2
ok but when i use vcdeasy it does n't work. it says something about my aspi drives.but ill try that thanks kwag.

If you're on Windows XP, you don't have ASPI drivers. You need to download them from the Adaptec web site.

-kwag

knews2 11-15-2002 08:22 PM

ok i burned when using vcdeasy and played back on dvd palyer and the same results picture seems to be speeding through. but i also noticed this taht there was some kind of caution tab while burning that it said file may be non-compliant. so how cna i mkae suer im burning a standard vcd so that it will work in my dvd player please get back to me asap.thanks.

knews2 11-15-2002 08:29 PM

also when i played the sample i burned usnig vcdeasy it doesn't skipp through or speeds through when played on my computer using wmp.so what could be the problem and how could i fix it.


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