I think that too...

No we can't :cry: No, your DVD has 5.1 as 2/0 and 3/2 which are both Dolby 5.1, AKA Dolby Digital. So you use the 3/2 channel to convert to .mp2 with surround 2 information. ( Someone corrrect me if I'm wrong 8O )

-kwag

I would like to know the difference between Pro-Logic, Pro-Logic II, Dolby Digital, and DTS...

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Now you are answering question before I ask them!!!!

edit: it is just missing DTS... :wink:

Minds in sync :lol:

So basically Dolby Surround 2 ( encoded as .mp2 from a 5.1 source ) is "almost" the same sound as 5.1 Dolby Digital :wink:

-kwag

warning:
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some old audio boards, "don't like" to reproduce
" encoded as .mp2 from a 5.1 source ".
the sound is a little scratch.
i post about this here in the forum ...don't remember "where",
and in doom9 too. DSPguru write me about this "real problem".

Well, as 5.1 Dolby Digital is a discrete system that keeps the multiple channels fully separated, I think that what we (headac3he) are doing is to encode a 3/2 Prologic II from a 5.1 Dolby Digital.
And that makes me think again... may be it's better to compact an already professional encoded prologic II (using the 3/2chAC3) than encode it ourselves (using the 5.1 Dolby Digital AC3).
:?: :?: :?:

The thing is that if we encode/convert the Prologic audio to .mp2, we're only getting left+center+right+surround. That is rear speakers don't have separation. If you encode from a 5.1 source with the "Dolby Prologic 2" feature of HeadAC3he, you will have surround channel separation on rear speakers. And that's a real blast :D

-kwag

Well, I was talking about 3/2 prologic II! So they sure have rear stereo separation. That's exactly what differs prologic and prologic II (the rear stereo separation).

Ok, just encoded my first ProLogic II soundtrack (American Pie), and used the same CBR so of course it won't mess up my file size. Now I need to mux it and make an image and burn it and try it ;).

From what I can gather from that Dolby document, they also differ in that ProLogic needs to be specially encoded, whereas ProLogic II doesn't. They must have some damn clever people there.

Hey I see a lot of clever people right here :lol:

-kwag

Make sure you set your receiver to Prologic, unless it does it automatically, or detects the signals and "Auto-switches" :roll:

-kwag

I guess SansGrip burned his Pie, I MEAN American Pie movie, and after hearing the surround sound on his KVCD from his Prologic receiver, he's going to watch the whole American Pie movie just to listen to it. I know what I was missing, before I started to encode with this mode :mrgreen:

-kwag

Yeah, I see that too. It means (correct me if I'm wrong) that a Prologic II decoder can get an unencoded stereo material (like a cd music) and play it through all the speakers, but if you have an encoded material (ac3 3/2 movie soundtracks) it will have rear stereo separation.
Is that right :?:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Do you know how long is American Pie movie? :wink:

No I don't :!: . I've never seen it :o

-kwag

Anyway I can't wait any longer.
I have to sleep a little.
See you all tomorrow. :D

Good God, man, you must rent it tomorrow. Tonight, if there's a nearby 24-hour video store ;).

As for me, I've been trying to figure out HeadAC3he (press "options" twice?? What kind of design is that???) encoding and making bins of both American Pie and Resident Evil.

I've not watched either of them yet :P.

wrt receivers, how would I know if mine supports ProLogic II? I know it does normal ProLogic...

hehe you left a minute too early :D.

Damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn.

:evil:

:?: what's happen my friend? 8O

Too much beer :?: :roll:

My receiver can't do ProLogic II :evil:. However, this one can :mrgreen:.

All of a sudden, we thought you had a fit :mrgreen:
Reminded me of "Back to the future" Damn, damn damn damn :mrgreen:

Hey, I have an RCA model that does Prologic II, the ones you can but at Radio Trash(Shack 8O ), and it compares to models > $1,000 and it's only ~250.00. At least the reviews show same quality as high end receivers. They even compared it to "Onkyo" which is VERY expensive.

-kwag

I think I'm going shopping tomorrow :mrgreen:.

It looks like a nice unit, it's $100 off, got a high rating and a good review... 100 watts per channel, component in/out, HDTV-ready, Pro Logic II, Dolby Digital, DTS and DTS ES.

It doesn't do Dolby Digital EX (whatever that may be) and only has two s-video inputs (currently I have three: DVD, sat receiver and VCR) but I can put the VCR on composite because it's only necessary for S-VHS and I never use that anyway. It also doesn't do s-video switching but my current unit doesn't either.

I should be able to sell the old one for $100 or so. Won't be too much out of pocket.

The wife's going to be thrilled ;) :twisted:.

Yep, RCA seems to have turned around quite a bit.. the newer RCA Receivers are pretty damn good (I plan on getting one in January), and all their High End Home Entertainment stuff (ie: HDTV's, HUGE TV's) have been getting excellent reviews. Kudos, RCA!

I didn't even think of the rat shack. I'll check their web site :).

Bah, only Panasonic, and more expensive than Future Shop.

@ SansGrip ,

Why don't you take along your "American Pie" KVCD and test it at the store. This way you'll verify if it does indeed work correctly with your new receiver :idea: ( At least that's what I've done every time I've gone to buy a DVD player. I take along a couple of KVCDs to test compatibility 8) )

-kwag

And now, I'm going to bed 8O
See you all later :D

-kwag

or the beer is over?
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Me too :). BTW, anyone else having problems recently with the forum not responding for some time?

I recently purchased a Sherwood RD-6108 for ~$130 US. from Fry's Electronics. I'm very happy with it (so far :wink: )- it supports Pro Logic II and dts. I couldn't find any reviews of it though :?:

Maybe it's a symptom of bad media (try another brand of CD-R, or maybe just another batch).

Did you overburn the disc? I've found that when I overburn video, I tend to get corruption towards the end of the disc (where it's writing where it's not supposed to write :wink:), depending on the media used.. some do it, some don't.

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Hey! Beer can NEVER be over!!!!!